T206 Wagner no longer the world's most expensive baseball card

[Gary Dunaier]

Move over Honus, here comes Mike.

Rich Mueller at Sports Collectors Daily reports: "The title of world’s most expensive sports trading card changed hands late Saturday night [8/22/20] when the 2009 Bowman Chrome SuperFractor Mike Trout card sold for a whopping $3.84 million . . . . . The one-of-a-kind Trout surpassed the $3.12 million paid in 2016 for one of several dozen known copies of the famed T206 Honus Wagner tobacco card."

Full article here: Mike Trout SuperFractor Becomes Highest Priced Sports Card Ever Sold

[chriskim]

Not true. I have no doubt if Wagner-8 put in auction again, it can easily has a $4M starting bid. There's no single modern card can do that!

[Dpeck100]

Kendrick has it insured for 12 million.

A Mantle 10 is number two I believe.

It should say highest recorded sale but both of these would smash that number by far.

[CMIZ5290]

Originally Posted by Dpeck100

Kendrick has it insured for 12 million.

A Mantle 10 is number two I believe.

It should say highest recorded sale but both of these would smash that number by far.

There is no telling what 52 Topps PSA 10 Mantle would bring.....

[Dpeck100]

Originally Posted by CMIZ5290

There is no telling what 52 Topps PSA 10 Mantle would bring.....

At least 10. Could be way more.

[Bigdaddy]

Not hating on pre-war. You can speculate and deny all you want, but until a card changes hands and a higher selling price is made public, then Trout holds the record.

Personally, I'd take Wagner all day long and Mantle on Sunday. To me, the card (Wagner) trumps the nicest version of a card (Mantle 10). Trout is somewhere down the road.

[Republicaninmass]

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[Tyruscobb]

Originally Posted by Bigdaddy

Not hating on pre-war. You can speculate and deny all you want, but until a card changes hands and a higher selling price is made public, then Trout holds the record.

Personally, I'd take Wagner all day long and Mantle on Sunday. To me, the card (Wagner) trumps the nicest version of a card (Mantle 10). Trout is somewhere down the road.

I’d even take the ‘52 Mantle PSA 9 over that Trout. It is more impressive than that Trout in my humble opinion. Not speaking to value (although it should be), but to condition, survival, story and hobby significance.

The Trout went from a pack directly into a protective holder. The Mantle has survived, in its 9 condition, almost 70 years. It survived bicycle spokes, kid’s dirty hands, moms cleaning out closets, and from getting dumped into the Atlantic Ocean. All without any specialty holders or cases.

Plus, it single handily is the most significant post-war card and has driven the hobby for years.

[rats60]

Originally Posted by Bigdaddy

Not hating on pre-war. You can speculate and deny all you want, but until a card changes hands and a higher selling price is made public, then Trout holds the record.

Personally, I'd take Wagner all day long and Mantle on Sunday. To me, the card (Wagner) trumps the nicest version of a card (Mantle 10). Trout is somewhere down the road.

Disagree. Kendrick has been offered and turned down 10 million for his Wagner. That is just as good as Trout selling at auction. There is nothing saying that if Ken decided to sell, that it wouldn't go for more. I agree that any of the PSA 10 Mantles would sell for more as well as the best BN Ruth. Even that PSA 5MC Wagner is worth more than the Trout. You point to a sale from 4 years ago while the Trout sold for 400k 2 years ago. The jumbo Wagner is gone up a lot in 4 years considering the PSA 2 that sold last year for almost double what it sold for a few years earlier. All premium cards have gone way up recently, not just this Trout.

[Santo10Fan]

Originally Posted by Gary Dunaier

Move over Honus, here comes Mike.

Rich Mueller at Sports Collectors Daily reports: "The title of world’s most expensive sports trading card changed hands late Saturday night [8/22/20] when the 2009 Bowman Chrome SuperFractor Mike Trout card sold for a whopping $3.84 million . . . . . The one-of-a-kind Trout surpassed the $3.12 million paid in 2016 for one of several dozen known copies of the famed T206 Honus Wagner tobacco card."

Full article here: Mike Trout SuperFractor Becomes Highest Priced Sports Card Ever Sold

For those of us who hold gem mint 2011 TU Trouts, the news couldn't be better.

[2dueces]

Card sold in 2018 for $400K. That’s what I call a good investment. 10x in just 2 years. Congratulations to the consignor.

[Tabe]

Originally Posted by Tyruscobb

I’d even take the ‘52 Mantle PSA 9 over that Trout. It is more impressive than that Trout in my humble opinion. Not speaking to value (although it should be), but to condition, survival, story and hobby significance.

The Trout went from a pack directly into a protective holder. The Mantle has survived, in its 9 condition, almost 70 years. It survived bicycle spokes, kid’s dirty hands, moms cleaning out closets, and from getting dumped into the Atlantic Ocean. All without any specialty holders or cases.

Plus, it single handily is the most significant post-war card and has driven the hobby for years.

If I'm not mistaken, the vast majority of high grade Mantles also went straight from pack to holder as well because they came from the Al Rosen find.

[sbfinley]

All things considered, the Kendrick Wagner sale was 13 years ago and if it hit the market tomorrow a hammer between 25-40 million would not surprise me. Look at the growth in price of almost any premier liquid investment during that timeframe.... (cough, inflation, cough).

[bobbyw8469]

Originally Posted by 2dueces

Card sold in 2018 for $400K. That’s what I call a good investment. 10x in just 2 years. Congratulations to the consignor.

The consignor was VegasDave....a POS sports tout who rips off Gambling degenerates. That is how he was able to buy it in the first place. By ripping people off.

[MikeGarcia]

Originally Posted by bobbyw8469

The consignor was VegasDave....a POS sports tout who rips off Gambling degenerates. That is how he was able to buy it in the first place. By ripping people off.

..how long did he own it ? Does the IRS care if he's just selling an old baseball card from his personal collection , or is he selling an asset at more than he paid for it .......is there such a thing as ''unintentional , accidental, surprise !! 'profit ?

..?

[bobbyw8469]

I think he owned it around 3-4 years.

[moeson]

https://nypost.com/2020/08/25/the-he...out-card-sale/

[ullmandds]

Originally Posted by moeson

https://nypost.com/2020/08/25/the-he...out-card-sale/

Shocking...another "crook" exploiting the hobby...and making headlines.

[swarmee]

Originally Posted by MikeGarcia

..how long did he own it ? Does the IRS care if he's just selling an old baseball card from his personal collection , or is he selling an asset at more than he paid for it .......is there such a thing as ''unintentional , accidental, surprise !! 'profit ?

..?

We're having some fun threads on Blowout because people don't realize they're supposed to pay Federal taxes on cards like all the thousand dollar Prizm basketball cards. Will be very interesting to see if the IRS ever gets involved in the sports card market.
They might be able to close the budget deficit next year... ;-)

[Stampsfan]

Originally Posted by moeson

https://nypost.com/2020/08/25/the-he...out-card-sale/

Wow. He sounds like quite a humble man.
Ugh.

[JeremyW]

Originally Posted by swarmee

We're having some fun threads on Blowout because people don't realize they're supposed to pay Federal taxes on cards like all the thousand dollar Prizm basketball cards. Will be very interesting to see if the IRS ever gets involved in the sports card market.
They might be able to close the budget deficit next year... ;-)

Speaking of taxes, I bet the individual states in the U.S. are amazed at the amount of money Ebay is sending them in sales taxes collected.

[bobbyw8469]

Originally Posted by Stampsfan

Wow. He sounds like quite a humble man.
Ugh.

He's a turd. And that's putting it mildly.

[ls7plus]

Originally Posted by rats60

Disagree. Kendrick has been offered and turned down 10 million for his Wagner. That is just as good as Trout selling at auction. There is nothing saying that if Ken decided to sell, that it wouldn't go for more. I agree that any of the PSA 10 Mantles would sell for more as well as the best BN Ruth. Even that PSA 5MC Wagner is worth more than the Trout. You point to a sale from 4 years ago while the Trout sold for 400k 2 years ago. The jumbo Wagner is gone up a lot in 4 years considering the PSA 2 that sold last year for almost double what it sold for a few years earlier. All premium cards have gone way up recently, not just this Trout.

Very nicely stated. There is little question that a number of cards out there would sell for more than the Trout being discussed, including the PSA 4 Baltimore News Ruth, the three (? Haven't check the pop reports lately) PSA 10 '52 Topps Mantles, and the Wagner referenced above. And IMHO, the vintage cards will be going up, not down, over the long-term. I don't believe that will be the case for Trout over a decade or so.

Best wishes,

Larry