Trivia

[cammb]

Came across this little piece of information. Babe Ruth was sold th the Yankees for $125,000. What player was the second highest sold. This occured prior to May 1922.

[Mark17]

Originally Posted by cammb

Came across this little piece of information. Babe Ruth was sold th the Yankees for $125,000. What player was the second highest sold. This occured in 1922.

May 29, 1922

Chicago White Sox traded Doug McWeeny, $100000 and 2 players to be named later to San Francisco (PCL) in exchange for Willie Kamm;

San Francisco (PCL) received Shovel Hodge (September 7, 1922) and Eddie Mulligan (October 24, 1922).

[cammb]

OK. I will give it to you but that's not the answer I have. I have a list of all the big player sales in the last ten years. Mcweeny is not mentioned. Upon further investigation I found the Mcweeny trade was on 5/22/22, My information comes from a baseball magazine published in May, 1922. That means the trade did not occur at the time of their list. I am going to correct my timeline.

[NiceDocter]

Every name can be a source of mockery but I would have to say McWeeny is up there at the top!!

[molenick]

I don't know the answer but my understanding was that Ruth was sold for $100K (not $125K), which is why Grove was later sold for $100,600 (in order for it to be the highest sale price).

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by molenick

I don't know the answer but my understanding was that Ruth was sold for $100K (not $125K), which is why Grove was later sold for $100,600 (in order for it to be the highest sale price).

History.com says 125K
https://www.history.com/this-day-in-...SV&OCID=MY01SV

[jingram058]

McWeeny, wow, what a name.

Here's Shovel Hodge. A name like that, you would think a great fielder, as in human vacuum cleaner. But not so, a pitcher, and not a great one.

[Casey2296]

Originally Posted by NiceDocter

Every name can be a source of mockery but I would have to say McWeeny is up there at the top!!

McDonalds is selling hot dogs now?

[molenick]

I have seen "reliable" sites use the $100K number and "reliable" sites use the $125K number. It's hard to know who is getting their information second-hand from whom, but here is a link to an auction of the contract promissory note in relation to the sale https://goldinauctions.com/LotDetail...entoryid=10213.

It appears that the $100K number is based on the fact that "The $100,000 payment was to be distributed with $25,000 in cash at the signing, plus three promissory notes each for $25,000, payable over the next several years at a rate of 6% per annum."

Again, I can't say which is correct but it wasn't a straightforward cash deal, which may have resulted in the confusion of the actual number.

[jingram058]

Originally Posted by Casey2296

McDonalds is selling hot dogs now?

Well, they are offering onion rings as of now, or they are here in Fort Myers.

[timn1]

Isn't everyone reading the post below wrong? - McWeeny was one of the players (plus 100K) swapped for Willie Kamm, who turned out to be an excellent player, but no Babe Ruth...


From the excellent SABR article on Kamm at https://sabr.org/bioproj/person/willie-kamm/

"By the time the 1921 season was over, his stock had risen. The Seals were fielding offers from several teams. Pittsburgh was one of them. Although the Pirates were seemingly set at the hot corner with future Hall of Famer Pie Traynor, they were considering acquiring Kamm and moving Traynor to shortstop. The Pirates thought they had a “handshake deal” with the Seals for first refusal on Kamm. But Chicago White Sox owner Charles Comiskey blew everyone away with a record offer of $100,000, pitcher Doug McWeeny, and two players to be named later (pitcher Shovel Hodge and infielder Eddie Mulligan). Pittsburgh scout Chick Fraser said later, “Kamm would have been bought by us no matter what the cost."

"At the White Sox’ spring-training camp in Seguin, Texas, in 1923, manager Kid Gleason gave his approval of the rookie third baseman. “There is the best third-base prospect since the days of the old Orioles; and I’m saying it whatever it cost our club,” he told a sportswriter."

Kamm provided all-Star-level defense and solid offense to the White Sox for a decade. In many of those seasons he was their best (only good) player.

Bill James rates Kamm as one of the best definsive 3B of all time. i can see why: he led the league in Assists 4 times, Putouts 7 times, DPs 3 times, and FA 8 times!

Originally Posted by Mark17

May 29, 1922

Chicago White Sox traded Doug McWeeny, $100000 and 2 players to be named later to San Francisco (PCL) in exchange for Willie Kamm;

San Francisco (PCL) received Shovel Hodge (September 7, 1922) and Eddie Mulligan (October 24, 1922).

[Mark17]

Originally Posted by timn1

Isn't everyone reading the post below wrong? - McWeeny was one of the players (plus 100K) swapped for Willie Kamm, who turned out to be an excellent player, but no Babe Ruth...

I'd guess the $100,000 had them close to the deal, but it didn't actually happen until Comiskey dangled McWeeny......

[abothebear]

Originally Posted by Mark17

I'd guess the $100,000 had them close to the deal, but it didn't actually happen until Comiskey dangled McWeeny......

I laughed.