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under $3 for regular everywhere and heading lower.

High-end cards will maintain value.

Ted--what are you doing to help the good guys in Pa--is the state really going for Barack Obama????

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Ted,

Wow, it's really dropped in PA since I saw you in Reading. When I left the state in late July, regular 87 octane was fetching $4.09/gallon. At the time of the Reading show, the price had dropped 50 cents. Now you're telling me that it's all the way down to $2.89?! That's great news!

Up here in Canada, gas was selling for more than $6/gallon at one time. It's down to about $4.32 now. Our gas is sold in litres, however (about 1/4 of a U.S. gallon), and it was at $1.08/liter last night.

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still $3.18 this morning but I suspect it'll push $3.00 by mid next week. Spoke with a guy at the local BP on a trip last week and he said it'd be pushing $2.60 in a month. Heard an analyst yesterday on the radio said $40/Barrel oil in the near future. Find that hard to believe but $65-$70 seems reasonable. My 16 year old who just started driving is breathing a small sigh of relief. His $$ are stretching just a little more!

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In N.Texas, in small towns, I am seeing about $2.89 - $2.99......I think this is a great thing since many that really feel the squeeze at the pump aren't fortunate (or unfortunate as of late) to own stocks. The working class are probably better with the gas going down than the stocks going up....and I understand the trickle down too. But when they see their $300 paycheck and divvy up the bills....they aren't looking at stock prices they are looking at their wallets.

As for cards....I am glad I have more cards than stock right now.....I am an optimist. Things will get better..

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You wouldn't believe it, but gas in Sag Harbor was still $4.19 a gallon last time I filled up. They really take advantage out there.

And it looks like it's time for Ted and I to have one of our every-four-years bets on who is going to win the election.

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Posted By: James Feagin

My brother lives in Adams County, Pennsylvania and agrees with the "bitter people who resort to their guns and religion" statement. "What can I say, where I live its true", my brother said. The cheapest I've seen gas in Central Maryland is $3.33 per gallon.

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Ted,

Thanks--I always feel a lot better after reading what you have to say on politics.

Maybe the "bitter people who resort to their guns and religion" will rise up--the new silent majority.

I always thought of Pennsylvania as the inner citie of Philly and Pitt overwhelmingly democratic and the rest of the state Republican.Hopefully that will persist and the rest of the state will overwhelm the two inner cities.

The steps to which the Democratic party and its wholly owned affiliates(Acorn, Move On, Kos) etc will go to win this election are astounding.

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Gas coming down takes a lot of pressure off everyone. The way are country has been built, gas is basically a tax. Very hard to avoid. If either McCain or Obama would step up and address this issue head on they would get my vote.

If and it's a big if Obama manages to win, our kids will thank us. Number one it will be a decisive blow to the politics and policies of our current admin. Number two we will get an actual fiscal conservative party back as a choice in four years, not simply the faux-conservative party which is currently running.

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Jim,

There's a reason why they call it "Pennsyltucky" or the "Alabama of the North". I'm an Arkansas Razorbacks fan. If you want to speak to other like-minded people, go to www.hogcall.com and you'll be sure to find many more conservatives than you will here

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Gas is now under $3.00 here in Nebraska....this is good news for me as I own a store that relies on people having expendable income. I heard The Donald (Trump) on TV the other day saying he thinks oil should be at $40 a barrel NOW. That would be nice to get gas back to under $2.00 gallon...would help me and a lot of businesses out.

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Posted By: Jeff Mohler

Right now in Lancaster County the lowest I have seen is $3.19. Since gas is something most of us use (with the possible exception of our friends in NYC), lower gas prices have the same effect as an economic stimulus package, except it doesn't come in one big chunk.

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James,

Pretty much the whole south.

Southeners and overwhelmingly so southern whites are for McCain.

The Demographics of the country are changing and it is making it more and more difficult for a Republican to win.

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Dan,

Whats McCain ahead in Nebraska in the polls--like 30 points?

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Jim,

As a person who studies demographics as a hobby (I know, what a nerd!)I have a pretty good grasp of who is going to win the election if it were held today. Obama could lose key battlegrounds like Pennsylvania and Florida, and still win. In 2004, I called 49 out of 50 states correctly (dang New Mexico) so I would like to think I know this stuff pretty well.

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I don't know for sure Jim, but in my district my vote for Obama is probably hopeless...on the other hand Nebraska is one of only two states that is not a winner take all in the electoral vote category and the second district (basically Omaha) is very competitive and Obama may take one electoral vote out of here. We only have 5 to give so not that big of a deal anyway, but in a close race Omaha could decide the presidency!

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"The Demographics of the country are changing and it is making it more and more difficult for a Republican to win."

This is absurd. Republicans have the platform which is right. Low taxes, fiscal responsibility and less government.

The problem is they have strayed so far from their core beliefs, they are very hard for people in the middle to support.

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2.97 this morning in Central Ohio. Of course I filled up yesterday for 3.27

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Posted By: Dan Bretta

You nailed it Sagard...the facts are the facts.

Reagan - expanded the federal government, raised taxes and almost spent us into oblivion.

edited to add the upside to Reagan - he lowered taxes then had to raise them out of necessity, and the spending helped in some part (Not as much as Wingers like to give him credit) to bring down the Soviet Union.

Bush the elder - raised taxes and it got him booted from office in 92 because he broke his promise not to.

Clinton - balanced the budget, shrunk the government, signed off on welfare reform, and lowered taxes.

Bush the idiot - lowered taxes, spent us into oblivion and bloated the federal government. He will leave this country in far worse shape than he found it..not all of it his fault, but he will take the brunt of the blame in the history books.

Now the GOP choice is a guy promising to put the federal government in the mortgage business???

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$2.79 in Wichita, KS, this morning.

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in reverse.......

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We're moving on down? Fish do fry in the kitchen? What's the opposite of a Roxie Roker?

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still too high! $3.37 in my barrio

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Posted By: 1880nonsports

that the majority of posters here are for Mcpain. It makes me think you care more about your cards than the world you'll be leaving to your children..........

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Posted By: Kyle

$4.19 last time I pumped on Ashland and Clybourn in Chicago, about 1.5 miles from Wrigley Field.

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About $3.35 a gallon in the San Diego area for 87 octane

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"Don't let these POLLS frighten you"

Yeah, remember '04. Exit polls showed Kerry winning by a landslide. But then he lost. Rove and Co. have ways of fixing this sort of thing.
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Just got back from a trip into town. The price is $2.99 - 20 cent drop in 1/2 day.

As a life long Republican, I have to admit I have no confidence in the ability of the GOP to control spending.

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Posted By: ScottDango

question?

where are the largest Oil/natural gas deposits in the world?

answer- Alsaka, USA...

who has the pull with alaskans to get this done?

Palin......her most valuable asset is her ability to draw needed resources from our portion of the earth...

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Scott,

Are you telling me Alaka has more oil than Saudi Arabia?

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Yes, Geothermal imaging from space has shown that the Alaskan region has more cupic tons of oil....

edited to add: the Saudis know they have a limited supply and that is why they are trying to get as much money for it now...similarly the arab nations are trying to position themselves with life after oil by building up their tourist economy....

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In Kauai at Costco it is $3.99 guess the lower prices have not hit here yet.

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Hey guy, I love you.....however, you have to get your information accurate......you stated......

" remember '04. Exit polls showed Kerry winning by a landslide. But then he lost. Rove and Co. have ways of fixing this sort of thing."

Those early afternoon "exit polls" in 2004 were proven to be highly skewed....the sampling of Dems was approx. twice that of Repubs.
And, it was deliberately done to discourage voters from voting for George Bush. It's a game the media plays every 4 years.
When it was all said and done, Bush won with 62,000,000+ votes......the highest of any Presidential candidate.

In 2000 Tom Brokaw erroneously called Florida for Gore way before the people in the Fla. Panhandle were finished voting.


JIM....part 2

Two years ago the Dems in Congress told us to vote for them and we would get...."CHANGE" ! ! ! ! !

So, many voted for them....and, we got "CHANGE"....change in the form of coins, not $$$$. A year ago the DOW was at its highest at
14,000 and gas was less than $2.00.

Well, we got "CHANGE" alright with the DEMS controlling Congress.....no wonder Congress has the lowest rating ever recorded....8%.

Even George Bush has a rating of 25-30%

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Posted By: DaveW

Here in the SF Bay area, the cheapest is about $3.50/gal
with most still at $3.65 or so. Obama is so far ahead
here that the candidates don't even bother to campaign
here anymore - they just stop by every once in a while to
raise money.
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fix stuff like Rove can?

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Ted, my friend,
I know we have different view on politics in general, but I share with you a frustration with the democratic congress. My guess is that our frustrations are probably for different reasons.
Take care,
jim

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$2.69/gallon in SW Missouri. We often are the lowest in the nation.

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Photobucket I should add that as bad as the Netherlands has it , what they have legalized more then makes up for it .

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Just wish my retirement accounts weren't falling just as fast...

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People seem to hold the Dem congress in contempt despite not having enough to override filibuster. Wish they'd hold their own admin to 1/10 that accountability.

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Ted Z:

Gasoline costs are nominally 15x the price as when you started driving, and the average salaries are too.

What has been the ratio of Republican vs. Democrat during this interval?

Gil

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$3.15 a gallon.....Tucson, Arizona

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Photo taken last week. Paper says cost of gas is supposed to come under four bucks and then we can all go out and buy Hummers.

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Interesting that gas is even going down anywhere right now with the shortages in the south due to Hurricane Ike. I really don't know the supply networks so I can never figure out why gas goes up and down.

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