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Old 01-16-2018, 01:32 PM
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Default psa research department Complete incompetents

why is it that psa research has absolutely no knowledge whatsoever
they look things up and still have no knowledge
im going to vent on just a few issues over the years
and no matter what the issue they never give the public an explanation
for example i argue for 63 peel offs blank back and instructions
they refused for 10 years then suddenly ok we'll grade em
and yet they put in the registry a mantle who am i scratched off and listed it as the uncoated variety...took me forever to prove to them card doesnt exist
and finally they removed
1952-55 red man...2 reverses...both listed in bible refuse to acknowledge
1954 journal american 2 obverses also described in bible refuse to acknowledge
1964 meadowgold blue and green...actually told me to hard to tell the difference REally? but they can tell the difference between a 9 and a 10 from 2017?
and now the punchouts 1967...10 years of fighting to list the different lineups...finally they do...now years later they remove them with the explanation theyll no longer grade WTF
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Old 01-16-2018, 01:49 PM
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This has been my experience too on many instances. SGC and Beckett are far more diligent and willing to thoroughly research issues. I have never viewed PSA as an accommodating authenticator for the average submitter.
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Old 01-16-2018, 02:08 PM
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What is your going rate Larry ?

I can post this thread over on CU if you think it might generate some interest.

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Old 01-16-2018, 02:47 PM
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Default Psa

Yeah...i didnt know where to post
Id do it for free if theyll listen to me
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Old 01-16-2018, 03:23 PM
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I emailed them about this and hope they add the variations back in.
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Old 01-16-2018, 03:44 PM
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I would be glad to tell them that I would rely on you before them on anything I can think of at the moment
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Old 01-22-2018, 09:20 PM
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why is it that psa research has absolutely no knowledge whatsoever
they look things up and still have no knowledge
im going to vent on just a few issues over the years
and no matter what the issue they never give the public an explanation
for example i argue for 63 peel offs blank back and instructions
they refused for 10 years then suddenly ok we'll grade em
and yet they put in the registry a mantle who am i scratched off and listed it as the uncoated variety...took me forever to prove to them card doesnt exist
and finally they removed
1952-55 red man...2 reverses...both listed in bible refuse to acknowledge
1954 journal american 2 obverses also described in bible refuse to acknowledge
1964 meadowgold blue and green...actually told me to hard to tell the difference REally? but they can tell the difference between a 9 and a 10 from 2017?
and now the punchouts 1967...10 years of fighting to list the different lineups...finally they do...now years later they remove them with the explanation theyll no longer grade WTF
PSA customer service ..non existant....if you need an expert in your postwar research dept Im available....I can work from home
sflayank@aol.com
Larry:

Add the two different 1955 Exhibit Postcard backs to your list. One with a plain line down the middle on the reverse one with the words A MUTOSCOPE CARD.

This info is listed in the Standard Catalog, but PSA will not mark the flip or list both variations for Registry sets for some reason!!

SGC did list their first one for me noting it is a Mutoscope back.

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Old 01-23-2018, 08:36 AM
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I had the same issue with my Mays 1955 Post Card Back. I submitted both variations and they wouldn't recognize them. I even included the page from the Standard Catalog with the submission. No dice.

Also, we can add the Dayton Daily News. They won't distinguish between the 1970 and 1971 issues.
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I had the same issue with my Mays 1955 Post Card Back. I submitted both variations and they wouldn't recognize them. I even included the page from the Standard Catalog with the submission. No dice.

Also, we can add the Dayton Daily News. They won't distinguish between the 1970 and 1971 issues.
Brian:

Did PSA decline to grade your two Mays Exhibit PC backs or just graded them both, but would not note the differences?

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Old 01-25-2018, 08:01 AM
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They graded them, but wouldn't distinguish between the two.

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1964 MEADOWGOLD DAIRY PANEL-HAND CUT MANTL / KOUFX / MAYS / MAZERSKI
1968 AMERICAN OIL WILLIE MAYS LEFT SIDE-$10
1969 GLOBE IMPORTS PLAYING CARDS WILLIE MAYS ACE OF HEARTS-CHECKERBOARD BACK
1971 BAZOOKA NUMBERED WILLIE MAYS HAND CUT
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Not many of their decisions on these make sense. Remember, they still don't label the various tobacco brands of T205s. And that is a hugely popular set with large multiples for the rare backs.
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They graded them, but wouldn't distinguish between the two.

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O/T but I thought you might find this interesting:



On the left is a Mays proof I have. It is a "Printed in USA" version. The one on the right is for size comparison.
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