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Old 02-02-2005, 12:15 PM
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Posted By: Gilbert Maines

My vote goes to the DeLong set. I just find the visual impact of a miniature baseball field with a comparitively much larger player positioned on it weird. No, it is worse than weird (whatever that is).

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Old 02-02-2005, 12:54 PM
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the 1938 goudey are terrible.big heads on small body....stupid

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Old 02-02-2005, 12:58 PM
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Posted By: Sean Coe

1935 Goudey. After 1934 Goudey seem very uninspired.

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Posted By: todd (nolemmings)

seems bound to rile whoever collects the set you find unappealing. I'll think about it as I type, but I damn sure would not choose the Delong set--that baby is one of the coolest sets ever put out, IMHO.

Personally, my least favorites are the 1941 Double Play and the W560, the latter by far the worst, again in my opinion.

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Posted By: Ben

And will add the R423 set to the list because you need telescopic sight to make out who the player is (they measure 5/8" by 7/8").

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Old 02-02-2005, 01:39 PM
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Posted By: jay behrens

The M P & Co go to the top of the list. The ugliest set of cards ever produced. Most strip cards at least bear a slight resemblence to the player they are depicting. This set looks like they went to a kindergarten class and asked the kids to to draw the players.

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Posted By: Bill Kasel

I bought a Plank for $50, and have had buyers remorse ever since. There isn't a true likeness in the bunch. Dull artwork too. Please don't be offended if you collect those. I just find them unappealing.

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Posted By: Bob Marquette

I absolutely agree. The E91 set with its generic faces and cartoonish backgrounds is at the bottom of my list. It should be bounced from the E90-1 to E107 roll call of card sets.

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Posted By: pete

I agree with the mp& co. and the 35 goudey and the e91's...generic cards stink!!!!

But I loooovvveee big head cards. Give me all of your delongs, 38 goudeys and n-presidential cards!!

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Posted By: Rhett Yeakley

I tend to agree with Jay on this one with the MP and Co. cards, but there is a set that is even uglier. The hideous, the repulsive W565 set. It looks like a crazed kid got ahold of some old photos, some scissors, and a type-writer and went to town. Included is a scan of one of the cards with the Gehrig in the set, being even worse.

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Posted By: JimB

The E91 set is boring with generic images. It holds no allure for me. I also agree that the 1935 Goudey set is uninspired. '33 Delong however, I have always liked though I do not currently own any (I did at one time).
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Old 02-02-2005, 04:17 PM
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Posted By: Todd (nolemmings)

probably tried to repress it--those W565s are hideous (at least there are very few in the "set")

The MP&Co cards technically aren't prewar (same goes for R423); in fact, the '43s can be excused for their ugliness because of the War.

E91-As are not generic, and are not so bad, IMHO.

If you count 'em as cards, I would throw in those 1923 German Baseball transfers.

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Posted By: Dan Koteles

the 38 goudeys as mentioned....absolutely ugly !!!!

It is like your waiting for them to talk like in a cartoon script....yuk !

I have been hearing for years about the e91's and disagree ,they are full of color and many represent who the players are- the Evers ,Karger and its a beauty...even the Johnson looks like him , but I agree that the other players with the same Johhson pose is a eyesore...oh well, I'll be happy with them as a collector !


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Posted By: peter

Please send me your virgin daughters...I mean send me your 38 goudeys...I'll gladly take them off your hands!!!!

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Posted By: Billy

There isn't one pre-war set I wouldn't buy. As long as the populations are low enough, you are guaranteed to make money (which is my reason for buying them).

Are there any pre war sets out there that have high populations that you guys think might be overvalued???

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E91 fake poses. Yecch.

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Posted By: Matthew Jackson

My apologies to anyone who collects these, but the W515 has my vote as the ugliest prewar set. The players look like villains from a Superman comic.





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Posted By: Brian H (misunderestimated)

I'll echo on the sets where the cards have drawings that are generic and do not even attempt to resemble the subjects named on the card... this applies to the Buchner's from the 1880s as well as the Caramel set listed above.

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Posted By: davidcycleback

The R423s are great in that you can fit like eight in a single top loader-- and none of the cards touch! Just be careful about which direction you cough or sneeze, or half your collection could dissapear.

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Posted By: Kevin Cummings

Being a big fan of real photo type cards, drawn issues like the N284 Buchners have absolutely no appeal to me.

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Old 02-02-2005, 08:52 PM
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Posted By: brian p

E91 certainly is getting a bashing, and I think the reasons mentioned are not entirely justified. As I have written on this site previously, the set (at least most of the E91A and part of the E91B) has artwork that is based upon actual photos that can be seen in other card sets. Most of these depictions only correspond to the player's head and not the rest of the body. You may not like the stylistic leanings or the execution of this artwork, but to me it is a whole lot truer than most strip card depictions, and a heck of lot nicer to look at. If the stupid people at American Caramel had just stopped at the first series, these cards would probably have higher regard in the hobby, and not been stigmatized with the "generic" label. I have a completed article on this subject, which I was going to submit to the VCBC, but they stopped sending me the magazine a couple of issues ago (now everyone is in the same boat). Perhaps I should give Vintage Cardboard a try.

Also, just to show you how kooky I am, I like the W515 set BECAUSE of their super-villian artwork.

Here's some sets that suck: W516, because the colors and photos are just so nauseating, and the 1941 Goudeys, since they are so dissapointingly uncreative.

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Posted By: Dan Koteles

Nice post Brian. P and Iam interested in e91 info ...to hell with the first amendmant
they are gorgeous !

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Ugliest of the strip cards

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Posted By: Julie

pictures of real, individual players, are a drag, like the Buchner and the "Major League Die Cut" (1925, I think--Kit young is selling a bunch).

Many of the sets you mention are, while not my very favorites, much liked by me--the 1938 Goudeys, especially the ones with comments on them, and the '35 Goudeys--in really GREAT condition, they're beautiful cards, and those puzzle backs are a trip.

Some of the M.Ps--as someone said, first bunch came out in '43--bear SOME resemblance to players. DiMaggio, for instance.

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Posted By: Jimi

Man, those '35s are ugly!!! Anyone here collect that set? I love my 34 Goudey set and 38 Goudey set (unique), and the 33 Goudey is not too shabby either.....but yikes, what happened in '35???

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Posted By: Judge Dred

If prewar is pre-Korean war: MP&Co cards, does this really need an explanation?

If prewar is pre-WWII (the big one): strip cards, very crude.

If prewar is pre-WWI (the war to end all wars): E91 cards, very generic. Any set that uses the same pictures for different players hardly qualifies as a set (my opinion).



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Posted By: Gilbert Maines

Well it is sure interesting that what some hate, others like. And I have to admit - I just started up a group of 1935 Goudeys, and can't wait for more!

But really now, can anyone admit actually liking R322 Schutter Johnsons?
I mean no intents offended, but that is one hideous set.

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Can anybody post an E91. I have never seen one.

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Posted By: Glen V

Just use the Old Cardboard link at the top of the posts to find different issues/pictures - here's the link to E91's: http://www.oldcardboard.com/e/e1/e091/e91.asp?cardsetID=728

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As you wish ....

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