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Posted By: Ryan

OK, here is the story...

I was on vacation visiting my wife's family in Regina, Saskatchewan. We were at her grandmothers house and some of here friends were over to see my daughter. An elder gentleman came over and made a comment about the shirt I was wearing (a 1950's PCL baseball T-Shirt) and asked me if I was a baseball fan. We got talking and I mentioned that I collect baseball cards. He said he collected cards when he was younger and had kept everything in a shoebox. I asked him what years they were from and he said the 40's and 50's. By the time I heard that by heart started to pound with excitement. He lived in the same building as my wife grandmother so he took me down to have a look at them. He brought out the box filled with near perfect 50's & 60's baseball hockey and football about 1000 of them. I told him what they were worth and he said I could take whatever cards I wanted to sell and he would give me a share of the profits as he had no use for them anymore. One card that he would not let me take was a 52' Mantle with looked about EXMT but was OC. I ended up taking about 100 NM/MT 1960 topps baseball, these posted 52's about 200 1954 Blue ribbon CFL cards (book at $100 each), 200 1963 Parkhurst hockey cards, and assortment of 50's & 60's baseball cards all of which I will be listing on ebay.

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Old 08-21-2007, 10:33 AM
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Posted By: Dave Hornish

Nice reprints. Which set are they from?

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Posted By: peter chao

Were the cards inside slabs, or were they raw and just stacked inside the shoebox.

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Posted By: Ben

I don't know what scans you guys are looking at, but the 52 Topps pictured in this thread are clearly authentic and not reprints.

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Posted By: D. C. Markel



Congrats! However, I think you would find more interest if you started this thread in the new 1945-1980 Baseball forum.

http://www.network54.com/Forum/579392/

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Posted By: Cobby33

Nice horde.

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Old 08-21-2007, 11:37 AM
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Posted By: Bob

Was the "nice reprints" jab just tongue in cheek or is there a reason to believe they are reprints? I don't collect the 52 set so I am curious why the cards are deemed to be reprints. If they are or aren't reprints, it should be made clear to a guy who came on this board seemingly innocent enough and was smacked with an allegation of counterfeit cards.
Ryan, if these cards are legit, nice find and congrats...

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Old 08-21-2007, 11:39 AM
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Posted By: peter ullman

nice find...some of those are pretty sharp! I DO believe he was joking about them being reprints and that it was just a jab at the thread being in the wrong place!

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Old 08-21-2007, 11:40 AM
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Posted By: scott brockelman

1 for Barry

and yes they are 100% authentic

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Old 08-21-2007, 11:46 AM
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How did I get dragged into this?!

But great find, that's a major one for sure. I remember hearing years ago that 1952 Topps high numbers were distributed in Canada, so if I am correct and that collection originated there, it's not that surprising.

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Posted By: Ryan

I can guarantee that all of the cards are authentic and unaltered as they were pretty much untouched for 50 years. I just listed thme on ebay at:

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Posted By: Dave F

ouch. bad move by an overly eager seller...

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Posted By: peter ullman

$12 for shipping...ouch!!!

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Posted By: Ryan

I need to charge $12 to cover the cost of shipping with insurance to the U.S.

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before dropping them on eBay?

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Old 08-21-2007, 12:31 PM
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Posted By: Dave F

Ryan..these cards are going to go nowhere near what they would have...you don't need $12 shipping on them.

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Posted By: Ryan

I don't have a PSA membership and since I'm only getting a percentage of the selling price I don't think it's worth my time to get them graded.

Or is it worth my time to get a membership get them graded and then sell them? What do these cards look like them would grade to you?

I was hoping that I would sell them and let the buyer cash in on getting them graded.

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Posted By: Dave Hornish

Well, if I'm wrong I'm wrong but the dot/moire pattern did not look good at all on the scans. Just seemed too good to be true.

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Posted By: Ryan

I think it was because I scanned them at a high resolution

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Posted By: Dave Hornish

Alrighty-sorry for the 'tude and good luck.

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Posted By: peter chao

The cards look too good to be true. I agree with the others, makes a lot of sense to get cards PSA graded. You will double your money. It's especially true with the Bill Dickey, it will grade near mint.

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Posted By: barrysloate

He mentioned in the description of the Dickey that it had a light crease, so it will not grade NR MT, it will grade VG.

If someone consigned this to me I would explain to him the advantages of grading, and if you are only taking a small commission, see if the owner will pick up the costs. Every $10-15 he spends may put an extra $50-100 in his pocket, so it would be money wisely spent and you would still get your share.

A PSA membership costs $99 but you get 5 or 6 cards graded free, and SGC has no membership at all and you can open an account immediately.

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Posted By: scott brockelman

The Dickey would not have graded anywhere close to a 7 even without the crease, probably a 5. Cosidering these are mid grade Vg to EX+ the seller will probably do just fine as there are many collectors of 52 Topps that prefer raw just as there are T card collectors who prefer raw.

As an experiment or pure business saavy move you could follow the auctions and buy the underperforming cards, send them in for grading and then resell them.

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Posted By: barrysloate

Scott- if you say follow the underperforming cards, buy them, and get them graded, then it follows if they are graded they will sell for more money.

And while many collectors prefer raw 52 Topps, they are likely to pay less than collectors who like graded 52 Topps. I agree not all are worth submitting, but VG to EX high number HOFers are.

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Posted By: Anonymous

got any bob feller's in there?

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Posted By: dennis

i do think it is worth getting 52 topps high #'s & HoFers graded if they are nm or better,but these are not nm. poor guy comes here with some nice cards/good find story and gets slammed for being "an over anxious seller" his "high shipping rates" and posting scans of obviously real 52's that are called "reprints". nice job guys, no wonder people don't want to post here.

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Posted By: jay behrens

...and you can't blame me for any of it

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The richest person is not the one who has the most, but the one who needs the least.

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Posted By: Ted Zanidakis

The cards are authentic....Canada has been a good source over the years for 1952 Topps cards and especially the Hi#s.

Here are real 1952 Topps and their corresponding reprints for comparison.......

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Posted By: Paul S

Well, the Dickey (Not yours, Ted) is a slight MC on the back. I don't mind saying, since the whole thing is so publicized now. Not that I would mind owning it.

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Posted By: peter chao

Barry,

I see the crease in the Bill Dickey, but still, you seldom see this card in such nice shape.

Peter C.

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Posted By: Jason

Ryan-

Any chance on getting those scans of the Blue Ribbons I asked for?

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Posted By: Rich Klein

Is also very active on the PSA boards so I'm sure he is well aware of what cards should/should not be graded

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Posted By: Paul S

I'd have to agree with DC's earlier comment about the post-war board, and add that the rest belongs in the BST.

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Posted By: Ryan

Jason - I will send you scans once I return from vacation


If Anyone who ends up winning these cards on these boards will be given a full refund. These were sitting in a shoebox for over 50 years and I can GUARANTEE that these are original 1952 topps that are unaltered or trimmed.

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Posted By: Lee Behrens

I also agree these threads need to be diverted to the proper forum. Isn't that why it was created?

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Posted By: leon

In this situation I made an exception for the good of the board to let this stay. I think we can all see when someone is abusing the board and it really doesn't happen that often, anymore. This was a new poster with a story worthy of the first page, imho.......regards

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