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PSA Collectors Club?
Posted By: Dave Snyder
OK, this might be a really stupid question but I'm going to go with it anyway. |
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PSA Collectors Club?
Posted By: Mark T
It is useless to get a PSA membership for just one card. They do give you 6 vouchers when you sign up but you need to send a 6 at one time. If you think your Cobb will get 1 grade higher then it may be worth the money. |
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PSA Collectors Club?
Posted By: Paul Grubor
Can't you find an authorized dealer in your area? Or, why not take it to a card show where PSA is set up? |
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Posted By: Dave Snyder
I did post the card a couple months back and got several opinions suggesting it was undergraded, I just haven't gotten around to it yet. It's an SGC 30 and most thought it would get at least a PSA 4. |
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Posted By: T206Collector
...have a conversation with SGC. Try to see them at a show, go to their office if you live close, or just call them on the phone. Get an explanation for why it graded so low. If you really prefer SGC, then a few questions will go a long way. |
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Posted By: Dave Snyder
....I live in Massachusetts on the North Shore, so there's literally no place conveneint for me to go to. Perhaps waiting for a show is the best course of action - I'm not in a hurry. Truth be told, I would prefer to keep it in an SGC holder. |
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Posted By: Mark T
That would be a big jump in grade. Are you sure there a no wrinkles or a spot of paper loss that can't be seen by just looking. I believe you when you say SGC may have undergraded it. |
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Posted By: sagard
If the card would warrant a two grade bump from PSA, it would probably get the same bump from SGC. Posting a scan would be very helpful. |
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Posted By: Dave Snyder
........perfectly clean back too. |
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Posted By: Mark T
That is a PSA 4 all the way. |
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Posted By: Mark T
As i am looking at your Cobb i see a small speckle or dot near the bottom. SGC may have deemed that a (MK) so thats could be why it was downgraded. |
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Posted By: cmoking
I think SGC will be at the Shriner's show in November. Show the card to them and see what they say. They've definitely caught stuff that I didn't notice with my cards. |
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PSA Collectors Club?
Posted By: E, Daniel
There appears to be a small horizontal'ish dent/cut to the paper surface immediately to the left of Cobb's right ear. If in fact that surface imperfection is on the card, then the grade is right on or perhaps even slightly generous. If it's just on the holder, it might be interesting if you could post a similarly great scan of the back of the card to pore over. |
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PSA Collectors Club?
Posted By: Dave Snyder
I don't think the spot on the lower border is a mark in my opinion. If this card is fairly graded, then it's the nicest SGC 30 I've ever seen. When I bought this, I bought it for the card and I still love the card - obviously. It just gets uunder my skin when I see what I perceive to be lesser cards with better grades. Every time I see an SGC 30 come up on the board, I compare it to this Cobb, and it always wins. There's an SGC 30 Red Cobb in the BIN section on Ebay right now with 3 lines of stamping on the back! These inconsistencies on low/mid-grade cards are the biggest issue I have with the grading companies. |
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Posted By: cmoking
Just crack it and sell it as a NM card. Problem solved. |
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PSA Collectors Club?
Posted By: sagard
It looks like SGC blew that one by at least one full grade. Why don't you send that back to them and they will very likely get it right with a second chance. |
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Posted By: JK
I bet this sgc 30 gives yours a run for the money (a bit of glue residue the reverse). |
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Posted By: T206Collector
2 or 3 spider wrinkles you can't see in a scan. |
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Posted By: Dave Snyder
Thanks for the feedback everyone. If there are spider wrinkles, they are so minor you can't see them with the naked eye. |
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PSA Collectors Club?
Posted By: T206Collector
As I've said on here a few times... |
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PSA Collectors Club?
Posted By: Dave Snyder
The pyramid argument makes sense in theory, but I have two problems with it. |
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Posted By: quan
beautiful card! although i don't think it merits this much discussion and 2 threads. if i don't see any wrinkle or marking i would crack it out and resubmit. |
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Posted By: Dave Snyder
It definitely doesn't deserve 2 threads....this one started out with my question about PSA's collector's club and then several people asked me to post a scan, so I started a different thread. I had no intention of posting it until I was asked. |
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Posted By: Rob
1) beautiful card |
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Posted By: T206Collector
<<1. Whatever is wrong with that Cobb is not a "serious" flaw if you have to look that long and hard to notice it. You should be able to see an immediate issue with an SGC 30.>> |
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Posted By: JK
"If someone can show me an SGC 30 that looks as good as this Cobb, I'd like to see it." |
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Posted By: Dave Snyder
"That's a definitional issue; and a subjective issue. When I see an SGC 30 like that, I know it has spider wrinkles or glue residue. If it was an SGC 40, I would know that there was no glue and only one spider wrinkle. If it was an SGC 50, I would know that there were no wrinkles." |
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Posted By: Dave Snyder
JK - you did......I meant to say a T206 SGC 30.....my bad! |
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Posted By: T206Collector
...subjective assessments (i.e., beauty, presentation, aura) and more objective assessments (i.e., 2 spider wrinkles, glue, paper loss, centering, corner damage). Otherwise you lose the value of the grade. |
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Posted By: JK
This one is close, its slightly miscut but has sharper corners IMO. I always believed that it should have been a 40, but never tried to resubmit it.(Disclosure - I sold this one a month or two ago): |
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PSA Collectors Club?
Posted By: Fred Y
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