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Old 10-25-2010, 04:40 PM
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With the Crazy Buy It Now prices on E-bay, it makes you wonder do these folks have some special cards that I don't have access to or do they think since THEY own them they are worth a lot more. I realize that it is their cards and they can ask what they want, but it is starting to get a little bit out of hand in my opinion. They have make offers on them but you know you don't have a chance in hell of buying hardly any of them. What do others think? T206's is what I collect.Thanks. Dennis.
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Old 10-25-2010, 04:48 PM
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I'm sure we're both seeing the same things since I also collect t206s. The prices are so far away from what is fair, I have started filtering the BINs out completely when I browse eBay. For every reasonable BIN. there are 99 that are just a waste of space. I just don't really understand. Do these guys really ever sell any cards with these astronomical prices?
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Old 10-25-2010, 04:55 PM
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With the Crazy Buy It Now prices on E-bay, it makes you wonder do these folks have some special cards that I don't have access to or do they think since THEY own them they are worth a lot more. I realize that it is their cards and they can ask what they want, but it is starting to get a little bit out of hand in my opinion. They have make offers on them but you know you don't have a chance in hell of buying hardly any of them. What do others think? T206's is what I collect.Thanks. Dennis.
I have noticed the same thing as well. I hardly even look on eBay anymore. I collect T206 in only SGC 50 and joesvintagesportscards recently listed a lot in that particualr grade at reasonably priced BINs. Other than that, eBay is a waste of my time.
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Old 10-25-2010, 04:56 PM
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Luke, occasionally they may sell one. I just don't understand why folks don't take the time to educate themselves at least a little bit when they get into a hobby.
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Old 10-25-2010, 05:13 PM
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I have noticed the same thing as well. I hardly even look on eBay anymore. I collect T206 in only SGC 50 and joesvintagesportscards recently listed a lot in that particualr grade at reasonably priced BINs. Other than that, eBay is a waste of my time.
Yeah, this seller offers reasonable prices. The only BIN I have ever bought was from them
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Old 10-25-2010, 05:16 PM
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I don't mind that much. I do get mad when I'm out bid and see the actual card for sale the next day with 5x the winning bid. What a dumb strategy

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Old 10-25-2010, 05:39 PM
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You just have to hang in there! Eventually, with persistence, you will find a reasonable BIN here and there. Here is one, not a bargain, but priced right for what is one of the tougher commons....

http://cgi.ebay.com/1909-11-T206-FRE...-/200535838247

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Old 10-25-2010, 09:51 PM
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joesvintagesportscard is by far the most reasonable seller I have seen. Also, he always includes scans of the back of the card. I hate it when sellers don't have scans of the back. Ebay sellers should take a lesson from this guy....whoever he is.
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Old 10-25-2010, 10:14 PM
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Won this T206 Frank Chance portrait ebay auction tonight, thought I paid a fair price for it.

http://cgi.ebay.ca/1909-11-T206-Swee...#ht_2028wt_907
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Old 10-25-2010, 10:23 PM
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I've recently asked about some prices from a couple of dealers--both of whom I think have little experience with pre-war. Most of their prices were based on a percentage of "book" which have a disproportionately high NM since NM pre-war is nearly impossible to find...Due to their lack of experience, they priced the low grade commons at about 10% of book thinking they were giving me a good $ on a f/g t205 common when in fact such a "deal" was x2 x3 the going price of these cards...

Also, some people on eBay are afraid of selling their rare/old stuff for too low so they just stick it up there with a high-price tag and if it doesn't sell, so be it, they'll just keep it in their PC. For very rare items, it is possible to get a tasty $ if the right collector strolls along that has no other options but to buy yours...
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We're talking about T206's here guys. If you don't like the price just wait a week or two and you'll see another one! Patience is a virtue rarely spoken of here.

People here unfairly talk about how all BIN on ebay are overpriced but I don't really agree. Granted, there are some notoriousy high priced sellers (many of whom have tons of items in their inventory) but I think we dwell too much on those dealers when there are many vintage dealers with reasonable BIN's that will often work with a buyer if they request it.

I have had great success w/ my ebay store since I opened it and I have dealt w/ many great dealers that also hae great items at reasonable prices (one has been mentioned in this thread).

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Old 10-26-2010, 06:31 AM
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yeah its crazy. i had looked at a t206 and it was beat up the seller wanted a opening bid of $200 and it might be worth $8-10 crazy
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Old 10-26-2010, 03:15 PM
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Rhett, I will try to do better on the patience. How about .99 and let it fly, then we wouldn't be having this discussion. I do it, sometimes it works sometimes it don't, you have to take the bad with the good. Most of these sellers (I do not mean all of them) would not lower a price if their life depended on it. Thanks. Dennis.
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...a paper loss Green Cobb T206 for $10,000.

http://cgi.ebay.com/1909-11-T-206-TY...item2eb032e5d7
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Old 10-26-2010, 04:12 PM
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**** We're talking about T206's here guys. If you don't like the price just wait a week or two and you'll see another one! Patience is a virtue rarely spoken of here. *****


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Old 10-26-2010, 04:44 PM
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Rhett, I will try to do better on the patience. How about .99 and let it fly, then we wouldn't be having this discussion
Don't do it!!!! I recently "auctioned" some cards at 99 cents and they sold for the whopping sum of $3. One was a 1 of 1 with NONE higher!!! The next time, a collector hit BINs on similar cards averaging $30 each. In my opinion, auctions are NOT currently the way to go, and therefore you see a bunch of BINs/OBO......
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Old 10-26-2010, 07:13 PM
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joesvintagesportscard is by far the most reasonable seller I have seen. Also, he always includes scans of the back of the card. I hate it when sellers don't have scans of the back. Ebay sellers should take a lesson from this guy....whoever he is.
He is still a bit overpriced, but certainly not as bad as other sellers with out of control BIN's. If you contact him about price, he may come down as he has for me a couple times.
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Old 10-26-2010, 07:30 PM
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Default Overpriced T206s

Here's another T206 that recently ended in the B & L auction (a mere 17 days ago, mind you) for a $570 hammer price. It can now be yours for $1,200, or Best Offer!

http://cgi.ebay.com/T206-Hindu-Shag-...item2c585d5e62
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Ebay has been healthy lately.
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Old 10-26-2010, 10:34 PM
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There are alot of factors that go into when to auction vs. when to BIN...I would almost recommend BIN-ing first and if no sale occurs, considering auction...Extremely rare or quirky type items (including I would imagine many pre-war issues) I would ithink would best be sold as a BIN...

Huge mixed vintage llots or very popular rookie cards and you could be safe and (even benefit) from the auction format...It amazes me how very seasoned eBay sellers don't understand which items should be sold BIN and which ones should be auctioned...
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Old 10-27-2010, 05:39 AM
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There's a guy selling an N172 Paul Hines that has a light photo and a very heavy crease. It would likely grade in the Fair to Good range, and is probably worth around $80-100.

His asking price: $5800. Why?
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Old 10-27-2010, 08:47 AM
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There's a guy selling an N172 Paul Hines that has a light photo and a very heavy crease. It would likely grade in the Fair to Good range, and is probably worth around $80-100.

His asking price: $5800. Why?
Hines' great grandson is looking to buy it.
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Hines' great grandson is looking to buy it.
Is that true?
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No, it was a joke referring back to Sutthoff's grandson on the board...
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Old 10-27-2010, 09:13 AM
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It's hard to pick up tone on a chatboard. Couldn't tell if you were joking or serious.
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Old 10-27-2010, 09:16 AM
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Default Glory Days over

Lets face it folks, the ebay Glory Days are over. You know, the good 'ol days whith lots of "auction" style listings for nice cards - every week two or three really perked my interest.

Nowadays, no more. Ahh, oh well. I don't spend nearly the time I used to on ebay looking for cards - just not worth the time.

So I have stashed my good vintage stuff.

Am now working on a display of awesome cards from my childhood - a lot less expensive and I still get out my ebay jollies. I just picked up a 1976 Nolan Ryan, while back a nice 1977 Seaver. Also a 1975 Schmidt with the cool green/yellow border. The great 70's as a kid growing up near Anaheim Stadium - ahh, the good 'ol days !

Wait for the annual REA auction for the really good stuff.

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Seems like one reason may be that all the legitimate prices get bought up immediately, leaving the inflated ones behind. I think some may use it as free advertising for their websites etc.

I'm one of the many who never look at BIN.
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BIN for just under 50K
- but what a knock-out -

T205 Walter Johnson SCG 92

http://cgi.ebay.com/1911-T205-Gold-B...item5195ef1420
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BIN for just under 50K
- but what a knock-out -

T205 Walter Johnson SCG 92

http://cgi.ebay.com/1911-T205-Gold-B...item5195ef1420
I don't know much about T205, but the borders look thin to me. Perhaps they're supposed to look like that?

Either way, there's is too much l-r space between the gasket and the card. Whenever I see that much space, I always think the card is trimmed.
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This is my nominee.

http://cgi.ebay.com/1911-t205-Cycle-...item2c58707010
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Gentlemen and ladies, ebay is the finest card museum on the planet and it's free to browse. Why all the complaining. It is not really an auction site anymore and hasn't been for years.
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I noticed this also. Prices have come down some what and these sellers are trying to get what they got two years ago. I find the auctions are the best, however there seem to be so few willing to put their cards in auction as compared to the Buy It Now. Some sellers have come down in price, like joesvintagesportscards.
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