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Old 06-29-2020, 10:35 PM
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I am finishing up an awesome Hall of Fame football card collection. I have the greats from Sammy Baugh to Michael Strahan.

Here's my question. OJ Simpson is one of the greatest running backs of all time and he is currently in the NFL HOF. However, I despise him as a human being.

Would it be ok to not add his card to my collection? Or would it be noticeably incomplete without OJ Simpson?
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Old 06-30-2020, 07:07 AM
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I think it's a personal decision.....
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Old 06-30-2020, 08:02 AM
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I think it's a personal decision.....
+1 on what Leon posted.

For me personally I separate what players done on and off the field. I collect because of what they done on the field.
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Old 06-30-2020, 08:38 AM
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I am finishing up an awesome Hall of Fame football card collection. I have the greats from Sammy Baugh to Michael Strahan.



Here's my question. OJ Simpson is one of the greatest running backs of all time and he is currently in the NFL HOF. However, I despise him as a human being.



Would it be ok to not add his card to my collection? Or would it be noticeably incomplete without OJ Simpson?
You could buy a really beat up version of his card. And when people ask why his card is so crappy, you could say "because he is a crappy individual."

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Old 06-30-2020, 09:01 AM
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For me the decision would be: Is this player's card part of a set or collection I was putting together? I have a couple of OJ cards in completed Topps and Kelloggs sets. I wouldn't put him in a football 'star' binder though.

I have a long-time project in which I collect a card of every player I've had on my fantasy football team (which goes back to 1980). In that binder is an Aaron Hernandez card. Ugh, but I'm not going to have a collection of 'every guy minus one'.

There are more than a few guys who are enshrined in the various sports Halls who were less than stellar humans. Everyone knows that. But if you start weeding out guys you aren't enamored with you then have a collection of 'Hall of Fame guys I like'.

If I had an NFL Hall collection I'd hold my nose and put a Simpson card in the binder.

Just my humble opinion.
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Old 06-30-2020, 12:07 PM
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You could buy a really beat up version of his card. And when people ask why his card is so crappy, you could say "because he is a crappy individual."
LMAO .... A couple of days ago I brought up the question to my wife and she said the same exact thing. Haha, too funny.

I will probably bite the bullet and follow through with Commishbob's good advice.

Thank you guys!
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Old 06-30-2020, 12:28 PM
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Buy the OJ card, put it next to Ray Lewis in the Killers Wing.
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Old 06-30-2020, 01:41 PM
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Like Leon and others I do think it is a personal choice. Where to you draw the line and what is your tolerance.

Lawrence Taylor - multiple drug offenses, registered sex offender. Pled guilty to sexual misconduct for propositioning a hooker who happened to be a minor.

Ray Rice and Kareem Hunt, probably not hall of famers, but both of them beat women while they were still active players.

I am not sitting in judgment of any of them. The facts speak for themselves. My house is made of wood. Only the windows are glass.
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I have never removed Ed Bouchee from my Topps baseball sets
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Old 06-30-2020, 04:52 PM
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I have never removed Ed Bouchee from my Topps baseball sets
Except perhaps #145 of the 1958 Topps set.
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Old 07-03-2020, 11:26 PM
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I dont get bothered by OJ cards but I only buy them when Im finishing a set, and hes the last card left. I have plenty of cards of people who made moral decisions I dont agree with or did bad things, but to me there is a titanic difference between a double homicide and slapping a girlfriend or throwing a ballgame or selling drugs. Never include him when looking for a type card or something
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Some things are more important than cards. I have a personal policy that anyone who brutally transforms people into human Pez Dispensers does not have a place in my collection.
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I have a big run of NFL HOF signed photos, and got an OJ in a big group I purchased. I kept it more because I couldn't swallow the thought of selling it, but it has value so I didn't want to trash it. So if you look through my photos it's at the very end. I would not seek him out, nor would I spend an extra dime on Ray Lewis.
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I have never removed Ed Bouchee from my Topps baseball sets


What did he do? I just checked wikipedia and it doesn't mention anything criminal.


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What did he do? I just checked wikipedia and it doesn't mention anything criminal.


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He exposed himself to young girls, admitted it and pled guilty in 1958.
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What did he do? I just checked wikipedia and it doesn't mention anything criminal.


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He was supposed to be card #145 in the 1958 Topps set. They removed his card.
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Didnt want to buy oj either. Ended up getting one in a trade and others in lots so they are in the binders. I got most of my Jim Rivera cards before I learned about his conviction and possible later offense.
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This conversation must drive set collectors crazy. I'll bet everyone has a few players of sketchy character represented in their collections, even if they don't realize it. How about Jake Powell, Jeff Heath, Ed Bouchee, Ben Chapman, Lenny Dykstra, Mel Hall, Chad Curtis or Cesar Cedeno? How about the definitely amoral Leo Durocher? That's just a few of the top of my head. I'm sure there's a few bad apples in every card set.
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This conversation must drive set collectors crazy. I'll bet everyone has a few players of sketchy character represented in their collections, even if they don't realize it. How about Jake Powell, Jeff Heath, Ed Bouchee, Ben Chapman, Lenny Dykstra, Mel Hall, Chad Curtis or Cesar Cedeno? How about the definitely amoral Leo Durocher? That's just a few of the top of my head. I'm sure there's a few bad apples in every card set.
In defense of Jeff Heath (if it's the alleged racism that got him on your list), this is from SABR's web site about Heath having destroyed his own bat after Willard Brown used it to hit a HR:

This has often been cited as a prime example of the racial animus that Brown (and Thompson) faced in St. Louis. No doubt the perception was awful, but it is notable that in 1965, Hank Thompson mentioned Heath as one of five Browns who went out of their way to make life easier for me and Brown.21 In addition, Heath had given a positive report on Browns ability because he had faced him as Bob Fellers All-Stars faced Satchel Paiges barnstorming squad in the fall of 1946.22 There is also an alternate explanation for Heaths behavior. In his biography of Heath for the SABR BioProject, C. Paul Rogers III noted that Jeff was a quirky, superstitious player who was very particular about his bats and would not allow teammates to borrow them. Further support for the absence of a racial motive came from Browns road secretary Charlie DeWitt after that season. DeWitt said, He said he would not have minded if Brown got a single, but he had used up one of the bats home runs.23 The oddity here was that Heath had discarded the bat because it had lost its knob. Brown liked it because it was the heaviest he could find he favored 40-ounce clubs.
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This conversation must drive set collectors crazy. I'll bet everyone has a few players of sketchy character represented in their collections, even if they don't realize it. How about Jake Powell, Jeff Heath, Ed Bouchee, Ben Chapman, Lenny Dykstra, Mel Hall, Chad Curtis or Cesar Cedeno? How about the definitely amoral Leo Durocher? That's just a few of the top of my head. I'm sure there's a few bad apples in every card set.
Well, call me judgemental, but I draw the line at butchering 2 people.
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