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Old 07-20-2020, 09:09 PM
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Default 1909-1911 Cadbury Chocolates R.M.S. Titanic trade card

Hi all,

I've recently come across one of the most interesting cards I've ever seen. This card has been known to me for years but I never thought I'd have the opportunity to buy one. The card is a Cadbury Chocolates / Bournville Coca trade card advertising the R.M.S Olympic and R.M.S. Titanic. The card is the only known color image of the ship produced prior to her fateful maiden voyage. The card is an exciting find for me as Titianic is what sparked my passion for history as a 5-6 year old kid. Now that kid is pursuing his history degree at the University of Colorado and will be a senior this year. If I can get a good price, currently $130, I would like to treat myself with this card now that I have a little spending money from my birthday. However, early trade cards and tobacco cards are outside of my area and I know next to nothing about them. This is whay I'd like anyone and everyone to chime in with their opinions as to whether or not this is authentic? Thanks in advance!

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Old 07-21-2020, 03:04 AM
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I don't know the issue, but it looks fine to me. The pattern on the front looks like typical stone lithography from that era. Have you seen the website titanicitems.com? It talks about this specific card.
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Old 07-21-2020, 05:20 AM
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This is what i can tell you from my experience of this period...

i am a Paper kinda Guy... & The Paper Never Lies!

Reproducing this Paper Product today has shown to be Impossible.
So, with this as Evidence, viewing it's qualities as You have provided...

"It's Authentic!"

And if You don't want it!?!?
Please tell me where to Send the $130.00 Required for Her Purchase!? JK ( :

Go Get That Lady of the Deep!!!

Very Nice Find Indeed ~
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Old 07-21-2020, 07:56 AM
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I don't know the issue, but it looks fine to me. The pattern on the front looks like typical stone lithography from that era. Have you seen the website titanicitems.com? It talks about this specific card.
I have seen the card on titanicitems.com, it was the very first place I stopped when searching for information. Suprisingly there isn't much. I looked at sale records and the card saw a big jump during the 100th anniversary of the sinking but outside of that, maybe pops up every two years or so, at generally the same price. I appreciate your thoughts on it!
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Old 07-21-2020, 07:59 AM
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This is what i can tell you from my experience of this period...

i am a Paper kinda Guy... & The Paper Never Lies!

Reproducing this Paper Product today has shown to be Impossible.
So, with this as Evidence, viewing it's qualities as You have provided...

"It's Authentic!"

And if You don't want it!?!?
Please tell me where to Send the $130.00 Required for Her Purchase!? JK ( :

Go Get That Lady of the Deep!!!

Very Nice Find Indeed ~
Thanks for lending your expertise... I remember seeing this image as I poured over countless books as a kid, soaking up as much information and eyewitness stories I could about the disaster. If my memory serves correctley, I think there was even a copy on display when the artifact exhibit would come to town, although that could just be a selective memory.
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Old 07-21-2020, 10:18 AM
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Still looking for more opinions. I see the post has quite a few views! Want to make sure I'm getting what is advertised as this is a big purchase for me. Any information about this card's history is most welcome as well and if anyone has another authentic example, I'd love to see it!
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Old 07-21-2020, 10:32 AM
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I don't know the issue, but it looks fine to me. The pattern on the front looks like typical stone lithography from that era.
I agree with this statement.
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Old 07-21-2020, 10:38 AM
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I agree with this statement.
Thanks David!

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Old 07-21-2020, 03:38 PM
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Hoping for some more individuals with more knowledge in this area can chime in!
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Hard to say would have to check with a black light ultraviolet
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Old 07-21-2020, 05:08 PM
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Hard to say would have to check with a black light ultraviolet
Unfortunatley the card isn't in hand. I'm currently a prospective buyer.
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I hope this helps somewhat, I know this is a celluloid / plastic and is different from paper but maybe there are similarities in the print pattern
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I hope this helps somewhat, I know this is a celluloid / plastic and is different from paper but maybe there are similarities in the print pattern
Well, on the Titanic card, the text definetly doesn't pop and the card overall looks very rough, in some corners of the card, the damage exhibied is very detailed with minute strands hanging off and looking almost like pulp. I'm sure there are forgires that have that level of detail, I just can't tell.
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Old 07-21-2020, 06:23 PM
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To be honest very hard to tell if its counterfeit or being authentic you would need to see it in person
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Old 07-22-2020, 04:30 AM
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I'm almost 100% sure it's real, there's no sign of modern printing artifacts and it looks typical of stone lithography of the period.
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It's real.
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Old 07-22-2020, 09:14 AM
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I don't know anything about the card. But I've got my MA in US History from Adams State University, Alamosa, CO. Good luck on your final year under such crazy circumstances.

Getting your MA is definitely worth it. I loved all my classes. If you got a graduate degree, what topic would be your focus?

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