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Old 02-20-2005, 02:46 PM
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Posted By: Pcelli60

Is it safe to order back issues from them? I laid out 49.00 for 12 issues over 2 years ago and got 4..I was just wondering...?

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Old 02-20-2005, 02:56 PM
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Posted By: Kevin Cummings

As far as I know, back issues of VCBC (with the exception of #7) have never been a problem. New issues on the other hand......

I'd call them to see what's up.

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Old 02-20-2005, 03:05 PM
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Posted By: barrysloate

The magazine looks like it's breathed its last breath. I heard a rumor that Dennis Purdy was going to take it back and continue it, but even that was a long time ago. You can get back issues from them, except as noted #7, which seemed to disappear very quickly. That's the Honus Wagner of VCBC's.

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Posted By: Julie

refunds coming, in that case...

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Old 02-20-2005, 07:53 PM
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Posted By: dan mckee

Don Betz told me an issue would be out in January and that Purdy was a part of it. I emailed Purdy with NO response and It is the middle of February and no magazine. It is very sad how this has ended. Dan.

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Posted By: Mark Holt

Hey Julie - how about posting that hockey article you've been waiting for VCBC to include?

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Old 02-20-2005, 08:09 PM
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Posted By: Scott Forrest

I've bought four SABR research journals from the early '80s, five "Trading Posts" from the late '40s, and an almost complete set of Lipset's "The Old Judge".

True, it's all old news - but isn't everything in our hobby?

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Old 02-21-2005, 06:20 AM
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Posted By: Mark Holt

Have you tried Old Cardboard? How about on your web site? Throw in some PSA references and try SMR. Believe me there are a few of us vintage hockey collectors that would love to see it.

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Old 02-21-2005, 08:34 AM
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Posted By: Val Kehl

FYI, I sent an email to VCBC on February 15 asking about the status of the organization and when I might expect to receive another issue of the magazine. I did not receive a response.

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Posted By: warshawlaw

I think it is safe to assume that the mag is deader than Elvis and just as likely to return. If anyone has articles that were submitted but not published, I'd recommend you contact them and rescind permission to use the articles, then see if Old Cardboard wants them.

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Old 02-21-2005, 09:03 AM
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Posted By: barrysloate

Nice Hamlet reference, Adam. Did anyone else get it? I think VCBC is gone and I bet some advertisers are entitled to refunds too. I don't think Don Betz had his heart in it the way Dennis did, and I think when his wife passed his priorities may have changed. I think Old Cardboard will simply take their place, and do it as well or better (more color pictures in OC than VCBC).

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Old 02-21-2005, 10:38 AM
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Posted By: Max Weder

Didn't Hamlet actually say:

"Alas, poor Yorick! I knew him, Horatio...." (instead of "I knew him well")

from:

http://www-tech.mit.edu/Shakespeare/hamlet/hamlet.5.1.html

"HAMLET
Let me see.

Takes the skull

Alas, poor Yorick! I knew him, Horatio: a fellow
of infinite jest, of most excellent fancy: he hath
borne me on his back a thousand times; and now, how
abhorred in my imagination it is! my gorge rims at
it. Here hung those lips that I have kissed I know
not how oft. Where be your gibes now? your
gambols? your songs? your flashes of merriment,
that were wont to set the table on a roar? Not one
now, to mock your own grinning? quite chap-fallen?
Now get you to my lady's chamber, and tell her, let
her paint an inch thick, to this favour she must
come; make her laugh at that. Prithee, Horatio, tell
me one thing.

HORATIO
What's that, my lord?"

(Slight adjusted for modern times)

HAMLET

Where is the rest of my VCBC subscription?

Max

(And remember, Rick didn't say "Play it again, Sam" in Casablanca)

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Old 02-21-2005, 10:50 AM
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Posted By: Bruce Babcock

Did Hamlet ever have that skull authenticated? And were the rumors about Yorick and steroid use true? It's a case for CSI Denmark . . .

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Posted By: warshawlaw

it is a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.

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Posted By: Scott Forrest

"Methinks the lawyer doth protest too much"

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Posted By: barrysloate

Now we're into Macbeth, but why quibble. Anyway, Hamlet may have subscribed to VCBC, because that's roughly about the time the last issue came out. Here's one for you: if you kept Shakespeare's final play on the stove where you boil water, would you have a Tempest in a teapot?

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Old 02-21-2005, 11:42 AM
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Posted By: The Melancholy PR/Cuban

HAMLET
O, that this too too solid flesh would melt
Thaw and resolve itself into a dew!
Or that the Everlasting had not fix'd
His canon 'gainst self-slaughter! O God! God!
How weary, stale, flat and unprofitable,
Seem to me all the uses of this world!
Fie on't! ah fie! 'tis an unweeded garden,
That grows to seed; things rank and gross in nature
Possess it merely. That it should come to this!
*
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During the over twenty years that I walked around the streets of Broadway and Seventh Ave in Manhattan, I use to refer to the above, as the "Dieters Lament".

Pray tell Barry, on the scale of 1 to 5, five being the highest.
Where would you rate the Melancholy One as to knowing the difference between a miscut and a trim?

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Posted By: Darren J. Duet

Had Yorick been on the juice you would notice a thickening of the skull in the brow and occipital regions. You would also notice dense bone replacing the normal cancellous bone of the skull. If these ques are not noted, then if he juiced it was just for a short while.

Frailty! Thy name is authenticator.

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Posted By: Max Weder

"The lady doth protest too much, methinks", Queen Gertrude to Hamlet, on the play within the play

http://www.famousquotes.me.uk/hamlet-quotes/hamlet-quote-the-lady-doth-protest-04.htm

Max

(last role was in the Marat/Sade, guess who I played?)

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Old 02-21-2005, 12:12 PM
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Posted By: barrysloate

Max- you're right, it's Hamlet, not Macbeth. The memory starts to fade a bit as you get older. Oh well.

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Posted By: Hammerlet

Where would you rate him as to knowing the difference between miscuts and trims?

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Posted By: Julie

Ask anyone who's seen "Hamlet" 25 times.

My website is too small for the article, and as for sticking some SMR references in, I hope you were joking!

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Posted By: Scott Forrest

"Frankly Scarlett, I don't give a damn"

But Hamlet, being a "bit of a pig", would have sided with Rhett.

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Posted By: barrysloate

Forget miscuts and trims. I was a PhD candidate at NYU in English Literature. Admittedly, it was almost thirty years ago, but for an error like that I am inconsolable.
To answer your question, he would recognize miscuts, miss the trims. Weren't all the original folios folded into eighths and poorly cut?

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Posted By: barrysloate

Nope- they were folded into quarters and called quartos. There's that selective memory loss again. It's not easy being 52.

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Posted By: Bill

If this publication is indeed dead, I'm wondering if I could use the issues owed me & apply them to purchasing back issues? Better to get something than nothing!

Always looking for unique items related to the careers of Cal Ripken Jr., Sr. & Billy.

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Old 02-21-2005, 01:32 PM
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Posted By: Mark Holt

Old Cardboard then Julie?

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Posted By: Max Weder

"A baseball book! A baseball book! My kingdom for a baseball book!"

Max

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Posted By: barrysloate

That's a Peverelly alright. Well done. I guess it's one down, one to go.

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Posted By: Max Weder

Barry,

Unfortunately, this image was only saved from an on-line auction, and doesn't rest in a Canadian bookshelf (or at least, it doesn't rest in my Canadian bookshelf)

Still looking for those and the other elusive titles,

Max

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Posted By: barrysloate

Too bad- thought you hooked one. For the record, mine is significantly nicer- should we get that far.

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Posted By: Hal Lewis

Here's the inside of my Peverelly:



The outside is a nice green leather with gold embossed lettering.

Not for Sale.

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Old 02-21-2005, 04:29 PM
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Hal

I'm sure you would like to know that American Pastimes was not Peverelly's rookie book. While others may dispute the timing (or indeed whether the author indeed was the same person), it appears an extremely precocious Charles A. Peverelly wrote Bretano's Monthly in 1800 (or so says a search in the Library of Congress listings). A mere 66 years later, American Pastimes was written.

I think Bretano's Monthly should be your rookie goal, notwithstanding that it certainly has no baseball content.

On the other hand, given your disposition of the large headed card of Joe DiMaggio and your acquistion of the earlier black and white rookie card, does Jennifer need to add coats of gray and otherwise drab shades to one of the pieces on your office wall to make it match your new acquisition ?

Max

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http://dogbert.abebooks.com/servlet/BookDetailsPL?bi=379008042

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Posted By: Hal Lewis

No Max...

in fact, it is the OPPOSITE.

In other words...

the ONLY reason I could bear to part with the Wagner, Cobb, Gehrig and DiMaggio cards is BECAUSE I have such AWESOME paintings to remember them by!



The cards were like "doubles" or "extras" once I put the paintings up in my office and got to admire them EVERY DAY! The cards in the safe deposit box were not as cool!

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Posted By: joe

Is issue #38 the last mailed? The distribution of this mag was always erratic even when Purdy had the mag. Maybe you guys and gals know more about the magazine, but this doesn't seem unusual using past history as a yardstick.

Joe

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