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Old 05-04-2019, 08:46 PM
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Default Vladimir Guerrero Jr. (2019) Topps Living Set #179

I presume most of you know the concept behind Topps' Living Set. Essentially, it's a set that will never be complete. In Topps' own words, from their website:
"What is the “Living Set”? It’s a trading card set that starts with Card #1, but does not have a final card. It’s not tied to any specific season or era... but lives on year after year. It’s the first cross-generational product that can be collected and traded for years to come.

As part of the Living Set program, Topps will only issue one card per player unless that player changes teams. Three new players will be offered every week and will be available for purchase for just one week.

This exciting, groundbreaking set is modeled after the historic 1953 Topps Baseball design, the first hand-painted set. The set is still one of the most beloved among baseball fans even decades after its release, as it features compelling imagery from some of baseball’s all-time greats."
One of the cards currently available is Vladimir Guerrero Jr., who recently made his Major League Debut. Topps has issued MLB cards of players who at the time had yet to make their Major League Debut in the past - one notable example is Carl Yastrzemski, whose rookie card is in the 1960 Topps set but did not play his first game in the bigs until 1961. So, in and of itself, the fact that Guerrero got a card so soon after his first game is not a big deal.



But I found the back of Guerrero's Living Set card hilarious. Since the 1953 Topps design had career stats, so do the Living Set cards. And in the case of Guerrero's... well, before I tell you what I found so wild about it, you take a look.



Did you see it? The card notes that he made his ML Debut 4/26/19, and his lifetime stats are as of 4/29/19. Lifetime stats: 3 games, 12 at bats. That's what I found so crazy. Particularly since this will be his only Topps Living Set card as long as he's with Toronto.

Up to and including the games of 5/3/19, he's played 6 games and had 23 at-bats. And, of course, by the time the card actually arrives in buyers' hands, those numbers will be even higher.

The Guerrero card is still available from Topps. It went on sale 5/1/19 and will be on sale until midnight EST 5/8/19, if I've calculated the time remaining correctly. The link to order the card, where you'll also find a countdown clock letting you know how much time is left until the card is removed from sale, is here.

(Disclaimer: I do not work for Topps and have no relationship with them. Since the card is still available as of this writing, those of you who might be inclined to get this card might want to know how to get it.)
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With all the build up this young man has received, I am surprised his card is selling for around 5 bucks, but I don't know the issue.
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Hitting under .200 will do that for you. And the large quantity of this card has not helped either. Give it some time and if he hits the way he should the $5 is a buying opportunity. Also not really a "mainstream" card, because you can't pull from pack but you have to pay attention to "living set" concept to know this

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"outstanding hit tool"
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Old 05-05-2019, 05:07 AM
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With all the build up this young man has received, I am surprised his card is selling for around 5 bucks, but I don't know the issue.
All the cards in this set start at $5. They just print different amounts of them based on the orders.
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One rbi ,,try to sell his dads cards .
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I have enjoyed collecting this set since it started last year. Kind of expensive but terrific concept and it's been fun to flip through the year one binder.

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Old 05-07-2019, 07:07 AM
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Are you guys saying Vlad isn't good?
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Old 05-07-2019, 09:31 AM
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We don't know the final answer to "is he good" yet. Yes a small sample size and remember W.H. Mays began his career 1 for 26 so we would have said the same things about him in 1951,

I'm just pointing out some of the immediate price appreciation issues

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Not sure there is an issue though. When you're the best prospect in baseball your card prices are higher than others. What issue do you see?
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Old 05-07-2019, 01:16 PM
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I said price appreciation issues. There is a difference between on-field issues and card market issues.
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The card has gone off sale. The officially announced print run: 27,749.
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I ordered one of the cards from a dealer on eBay today. It's a fine-looking card and I have a good feeling about Booty Guerrero.
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I ordered one of the cards from a dealer on eBay today. It's a fine-looking card and I have a good feeling about Booty Guerrero.
Decided to do the same. Prices are all over the place but I was able to find one decently priced and local so was also able to pay in CDN funds for a change.
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Got my 2019 Topps Living of Booty Guerrero. Posed it next to my Myers so I could have my oldest card and my newest in the same shot
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Got my 2019 Topps Living of Booty Guerrero. Posed it next to my Myers so I could have my oldest card and my newest in the same shot
Nice!

I believe he has hit 4 home runs now but was sat by the Jays for some reason today??
I stated in another thread about how I dislike Shapiro and Atkins and this does nothing to improve on that.
It was a holiday Monday (long weekend/May 2-4) here today so the place was more full than usual and I bet 90% of the fans who attended were thinking they'd see Guerrero play for sure.

This stupid stunt will have them regretting sitting him I'm sure.
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I believe he has hit 4 home runs now but was sat by the Jays for some reason today??
I stated in another thread about how I dislike Shapiro and Atkins and this does nothing to improve on that.
It was a holiday Monday (long weekend/May 2-4) here today so the place was more full than usual and I bet 90% of the fans who attended were thinking they'd see Guerrero play for sure.

This stupid stunt will have them regretting sitting him I'm sure.
It was announced after Sunday's game that Vlad would sit on Monday so if you paid attention. not really a surprise.

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It was announced after Sunday's game that Vlad would sit on Monday so if you paid attention. not really a surprise.

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If you were Canadian you'd also realize this was a dumb move but I'm not really surprised either.
https://torontosun.com/sports/baseba...all-to-red-sox

On this decision, the Jays didn’t so much as stub their collective toes on the top of the dugout steps as they did completely trip over themselves.

It was dumb and short-sighted.


Why did no one with the club look ahead and realize that perhaps, say, Tuesday night would have been a better option to rest Guerrero? It didn’t occur to anyone in the front office to say, ‘Hey, wait a minute?’ ”


Guerrero said through team translator Hector Lebron. “I found out when I got to the field.”

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