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Old 07-27-2020, 01:36 PM
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I was reading the thread on the main page about the 14 Marlins players testing positive for COVID and Jake made an interesting statement. He basically said that the virus will be around for years to come because 20-30% of people are not going to get a vaccine.

I'll be in that 20-30% (if not larger). I'm going to pass and take my chances with the virus.

Will you get vaccinated against COVID once it's available?
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Old 07-27-2020, 01:54 PM
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I was reading the thread on the main page about the 14 Marlins players testing positive for COVID and Jake made an interesting statement. He basically said that the virus will be around for years to come because 20-30% of people are not going to get a vaccine.

I'll be in that 20-30% (if not larger). I'm going to pass and take my chances with the virus.

Will you get vaccinated against COVID once it's available?
right...another interesting comment by me.

There will be a big debate on the news places about whether we have to cater to the non vaccinated people......so will restaurants have to keep distancing customers etc or be liable etc...or maybe a covid and and non covid vaccine seating section.

we are going to be living with covid for years go come..

i bet you it will be in the thousands in terms of people that die or get really sick as a result of taking a vacinne which can occur when you talking about a BILLION + doses.
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Old 07-27-2020, 02:17 PM
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There will be a big debate on the news places about whether we have to cater to the non vaccinated people......so will restaurants have to keep distancing customers etc or be liable etc...or maybe a covid and and non covid vaccine seating section.
I really wanted to keep this more like a survey instead of a discussion, but you bring up another interesting point. Once restaurants and other businesses fully reopen, how would they know who has been vaccinated and who hasn't? In other words, if they wanted refuse service to those that haven't been vaccinated, how would they do that? As far as I know, you can't legally ask that question. Anybody could lie and say they had when they hadn't.
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I really wanted to keep this more like a survey instead of a discussion, but you bring up another interesting point. Once restaurants and other businesses fully reopen, how would they know who has been vaccinated and who hasn't? In other words, if they wanted refuse service to those that haven't been vaccinated, how would they do that? As far as I know, you can't legally ask that question. Anybody could lie and say they had when they hadn't.
They wont, but im sure they will put out a sign saying 'dine at your own risk'

There may be laws against suing restaurants in which you can prove you were infected that could apply but thats going to be by political lines


What about schools, i guess you will want to home school kids if they arent vaccinated...that debate will rage on in many areas and will go on for years.

If its a religious belief not to have vaccinations does the whole school now have to cater to that even though costs would be through the roof and there will be even more numbers saying risk to youth very low....

will go on and on........ its going to be the new normal....players out with covid the new normal as well..
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Old 07-27-2020, 02:41 PM
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I've never had a flu shot in my life, I'm not starting now. No.
right so you will be at risk anytime you go out for the next 3 years at least.....not taking any position, there will be millions just like you.......is what it is.. the new normal...
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They wont, but im sure they will put out a sign saying 'dine at your own risk'

There may be laws against suing restaurants in which you can prove you were infected that could apply but thats going to be by political lines

What about schools, i guess you will want to home school kids if they arent vaccinated...that debate will rage on in many areas and will go on for years.
If the GOP can get it through by trading something with the Democrats, there will be a zero liability clause for businesses...I heard up to 5 years. Businesses would probably still put out dine at own risk placards, but they would feel much safer about it.
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Not trying to dodge the question, but for me I want to see particulars about any vaccine before I make a decision. The expected efficacy level and challenge stage safety results will have to be made available.

I have no built in bias against one. Get the flu shot each year even though it's a crap shoot on an individual basis, and received all the standard immunizations that any post WWII child was given.

I'll take it if persuaded it's effective (even if only at a public health level), and most of all safe.

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I was reading the thread on the main page about the 14 Marlins players testing positive for COVID and Jake made an interesting statement. He basically said that the virus will be around for years to come because 20-30% of people are not going to get a vaccine.

I'll be in that 20-30% (if not larger). I'm going to pass and take my chances with the virus.

Will you get vaccinated against COVID once it's available?
I am. My job involves me being around a lot of people on a day to day basis, and I help take care of my parents. Since it looks like I'm going to go back to work soon, I'm going to get vaccinated the moment it comes out and I can get it. It won't be infallible but It's better than nothing in my opinion.
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I don't think I will have much of a choice. I am at at-risk individual, and my two jobs in education (high school and college) mean I work around hundreds of different people. My father is at-risk with lung problems. It'll be what it is (I'm kind of a fatalistic person). And if I die, my wife has a hefty life insurance policy on me to help ease the pain.

I'd get a DNR bracelet, but my wife would probably kill me if I did.
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I get every vaccine and flu. I Wont get the covid shot just because these other vaccines have so much long term data behind them where the covid shot doesn't.
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Yes. I'm young and healthy, but that doesn't mean I shouldn't respect other people's right to remain healthy should I contract the virus and remain asymptomatic.

Greater good, folks.

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I wasn't alive, but I don't think anyone hesitated to get the polio vaccine...

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Yes. I'm young and healthy, but that doesn't mean I shouldn't respect other people's right to remain healthy should I contract the virus and remain asymptomatic.

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I wasn't alive, but I don't think anyone hesitated to get the polio vaccine...

The first polio vaccine was a disaster which actually caused polio and killed ppl


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I'm just wondering what some of you would do if you did get COVID. Would your principles exclude you from accepting any treatment for something that either isn't as bad as they say or only kills 2% of the people who get it?
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I'm just wondering what some of you would do if you did get COVID. Would your principles exclude you from accepting any treatment for something that either isn't as bad as they say or only kills 2% of the people who get it?
I can't speak for everyone that declines the vaccine, but I think most of us are not antivaxxers. We're just not convinced that enough research and testing has gone into the vaccine to inject ourselves with it. I'm grateful for the previous administration's decision to start working on a vaccine immediately without delay (in January of last year), but it's just way too soon. It hasn't even been approved by the FDA yet. If within a couple of years or so it's determined there are no long term side effects, I'll probably get it myself.
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That is a thoughtful answer and I appreciate it but I'm not really talking about the vaccine. I guess what I mean is there is a lot of trivializing in this thread. People on the board have made it known they've lost people to the virus. Suggesting it isn't a big deal or only kills X people may be trivializing that loss.
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That is a thoughtful answer and I appreciate it but I'm not really talking about the vaccine. I guess what I mean is there is a lot of trivializing in this thread. People on the board have made it known they've lost people to the virus. Suggesting it isn't a big deal or only kills X people may be trivializing that loss.
Ahh, got it. Not minimalizing those deaths, but let's be honest. Admittedly, all those that I've read about on this board had underlying health conditions. Those folks would have probably had the same fate had they had a severe bout of the flu. Again, just being honest.

Edited to add: For someone in otherwise good health, the survival rate is an important factor.
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I'm just wondering what some of you would do if you did get COVID. Would your principles exclude you from accepting any treatment for something that either isn't as bad as they say or only kills 2% of the people who get it?
You mean take in fluids, maintain good hygiene and bedrest?
cant' Imagine anyone would say NO to that!
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Again, you're sort of trivializing what people go through. I doubt anyone who's sat around a family member on a ventilator thought it was a joke.
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Again, you're sort of trivializing what people go through. I doubt anyone who's sat around a family member on a ventilator thought it was a joke.
No just the 98% . Majority rules, last time I checked.


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