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Old 04-23-2024, 06:53 AM
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Not sure if there’s been a similar thread on this before but this is what happened in the beer can world
This beer can sold for $1232 in 2018 - 3 1/2 years later it sold for $31,920 .
I dare say beer cans Shot up as much as baseball cards (%-wise) and still show no sign of coming down
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I keep hoping my Billy and JR beer will take off any day now
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I’ve checked all my old beer cans……………They are still empty.
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I had no idea this was a thing. Learn something new every day.

Interesting note from the auction description: “Replaced lids, rust, spots, patched holes yet you may never see another one!”

I wonder what the beer can collecting community’s stance is on restoration. Is there a Kurt’s Beer Can Care?
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I wonder what the beer can collecting community’s stance is on restoration. Is there a Kurt’s Beer Can Care?
Repainted cans with any level of retouching are generally shunned by collectors and dealers hobby-wide. Most amateur attempts at restoration are readily spotted, but around 2000 so-called professional restoration began to take place whereby cans would be arduously prepped for high-level airbrush work that’s not readily apparent to the naked eye. This work was not divulged during sales in efforts to yield higher prices and therefore defraud buyers. Black lights are used now to expose this type of work.

Replaced lids ARE generally accepted because they don’t affect the originality of the label itself. One individual in the hobby makes a living doing this type of work and the quality is so good that, in most cases, the relidded can is indistinguishable from an original. However, crude amateurish work or mismatched lids are much less embraced as they really stand out as repair and this is generally reflected in the value/price.

This same person, and others, can also remove dents from cans with hardly a trace of the original damage (this depends, of course, on the severity of the original damage; not all cans can be resurrected). Professionally repaired dents are accepted by the hobby and have no adverse effect on values, while amateur work -- such as attempting to push a dent out from the inside with the tip of a screwdriver for example -- is as likely to harm the can even more than the original dent. This type of work has an adverse affect on the value.

In the case of the Triangle can shown in this thread, the lids weren’t well matched and the work wasn’t done by a professional but it is an exceptionally rare and renowned label within the hobby. If the can was all original, the price would likely have been higher. If it was a clean indoor can, the value would easily have reached the $50,000-$60,000 range.
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Dave is right on the money and obviously a knowledgeable collector .
Here’s my rundown and I’m gonna rehash some of the stuff Dave posted .
Now these are just my own personal opinions .

1 - removing rust from a can - 100% accepted ,
No need for disclosure

2 - removing dents - 100% accepted ,
Typically no need for disclosure

3 - New lids , re-lid , replaced lids - Mostly accepted ,
There are collectors that will not collect relided cans
So there is need for disclosure .
Note : As Dave mentioned the relid work is so good that a relided can
Could slip past an honest seller

4 - Touch ups , restoration (repaint) is mostly avoided by collectors and
Certainly needs to be disclosed . There are some complete re-paints that
Are almost comical that no one collects .
Dave mentioned the fella that does the high-end restorations - I would not
Collect these myself but I don’t have a problem with the ones that he
Scratched “restored” on the bottom.

5 - Faked cans - cans that have been altered - like putting a cone on a
Can that was never issued as a cone top or chopping down a 12 ounce can
To make it look like some kind of 8 rare ounce test can ,
I don’t Believe these are intentionally collected but occasionally someone will pick one
Up on the cheap as a curiosity

6 - Fake fantasy cans - almost no one collection these .
I have a strong opinion that they are created to deceive because
The creator doesn’t label them as reproductions or fantasies
i e “ this is a Dover re-print”

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Here is some of my oddball stuff.
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That’s an entertaining collection .
I like the very simple Heineken .
I remember Crazyhorse being involved in a lawsuit and They quit using the name
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That’s an entertaining collection .
I like the very simple Heineken .
I remember Crazyhorse being involved in a lawsuit and They quit using the name
I brought the Heineken back from the Netherlands around 20 years ago. Here is the other side .

The full bottle of Ripple Pagan Pink is my favorite.
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Suppose, theoretically, I have a large can collection assembled back in the '70s I'd like to sell. Is there a good place to find current values (other than checking them individually on eBay) and is there a good place to sell them? I'm in Michigan, if that matters.
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Beer likely does not age well but I bet that Ripple is really smooth by now
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I bet if you drank the Ripple, you could have it turn into the Schlitz.
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Suppose, theoretically, I have a large can collection assembled back in the '70s I'd like to sell. Is there a good place to find current values (other than checking them individually on eBay) and is there a good place to sell them? I'm in Michigan, if that matters.
Morean auctions is a good place to start ,
Here is the current auction ,
If you go to the top of the page and hit “auctions” and choose “auctio results “ (then choose All)
You can search auction results ,
Typically the average 70s collection doesn’t have much value but it just takes one good can
https://www.moreanauctions.com/catalog.aspx
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Also the values are all over the place - when the triangle deluxe came up the second time my brother and I thought it would be good to get for about $850
Our guess was off by 30,000
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Also the values are all over the place - when the triangle deluxe came up the second time my brother and I thought it would be good to get for about $850
Our guess was off by 30,000

Such ave happen to me before .


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