Card Savers / Semi-Rigids

[Mbjerry]

Question is this... Are there any concerns with these being PVC? I am moving most of my good singles into 4 slot binder pages with the card first being placed into a Semi-Rigid (with the exception of my full sets being straight into 9 pockets that say no PVC and acid free). I see that PVC is of some concern for archival. So I have considered first placing the card into mylar sleeve, then into the card saver, then into the 4 pocket page. But this is 3 layers and I want to be able to see the card as best as possible, especially if it is 90s refractor. I want to see that shine! lol. Anyone have any facts on long term storage of a card directly in a Card Saver / Semi-Rigid? I couldn't find any Semi-Rigids that weren't PVC. Or any that said anything like archival safe, like lots of the soft sleeves do. Thanks for any help!

[53toppscollector]

most soft sleeves today are pretty clear/good quality and most all of them say acid free on the packaging. mylar sleeves are more expensive, but obviously a bit higher quality and maybe worth the extra investment.

if you sleeve it, then put it into a cardsaver, you should have zero issues. some people have complained about warped cardsavers that arent flat, but ive bought thousands of them and have never experienced that issue.

im using the same setup at this point for my sets, with commons going into a 9 page sheet, and then the HOFs/bigger cards going into the cardsavers and in a 4 page sheet at the beginning of each binder.

[vintagebaseballcardguy]

I have used CS1 for at least a decade with absolutely zero issues.

[Mbjerry]

Originally Posted by vintagebaseballcardguy

I have used CS1 for at least a decade with absolutely zero issues.

Thank you. Is that without soft sleeves?

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[vintagebaseballcardguy]

Originally Posted by Mbjerry

Thank you. Is that without soft sleeves?

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I don't use sleeves for vintage. I guess if I were putting shiny, UV-coated cards in them, I might use a sleeve. However, those cards might stick to the sleeve as easily as the CS. I'm mainly a vintage collector so that is a moot point.

[Gorditadogg]

Originally Posted by vintagebaseballcardguy

I have used CS1 for at least a decade with absolutely zero issues.

10 years doesn't mean much though. If your cards only last for 10 years before degrading that's not good.

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[vintagebaseballcardguy]

Originally Posted by Gorditadogg

10 years doesn't mean much though. If your cards only last for 10 years before degrading that's not good.

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I said AT LEAST 10 years. It has been much longer for many cards. I have had zero issues. If you don't like them, don't use them. They have worked well for me and my collection.

[steve B]

Mylar sleeves are the archival standard. I don't recall just how long they're expected to last, but it's a very long time. Like several lifetimes long.

The newer soft sleeves are probably polypropylene , which is also excellent.
Card savers may also be polypropylene, just a thicker stock.

Older soft sleeves that aren't as clear are probably polyethylene. It's ok, but lacks clarity.

I've used a variety of pages/holders back to the first pages I had in 74 (Vinyl, sideload, but with one column facing another, and a very compact page so the cards stuck out and rubbed on each other. )
I have older soft sleeves that are from I think the mid 1980's? And they're still fine despite being sort of a third string choice.
I'm not sure how old the oldest cardsavers I have are, but they're probably from the 90's? The very oldest are occasionally brittle, but newer ones - maybe early 2000s? Are still like new.

None have damaged the cards.

Most of my early pages were vinyl, and have lost some flexibility, or have gotten stuck together. But fortunately didn't damage the cards at the point I removed them. Some are still ok, and I still have cards in them.