Player and Set Pronunciations

[asoriano]

It's interesting to me how player and set pronunciations can vary within the hobby. For example, I've always thought Cicotte was pronounced as 'see-kot', but recently heard a dealer say 'chick-coat-ee'.

Anyone have a player or set pronunciation they've wondered about?

[Sean1125]

Lajoie

[atx840]

Being a silly Canadian I pronounced it like a wonderful, warm desert. Pie....dmont.

[sycks22]

Originally Posted by Sean1125

Lajoie

Pretty sure Ken Burns pronounces it "La Ja Way"

[Eric72]

Given that the man's first name was Johannes...and the shortened version, "Hans" is found somewhat frequently...I believe Wagner's name was pronounced, "HA-nis" and not, "HO-nis."

Disclaimer: I have no idea how to write true phonetics. The above was merely a crude attempt by a "numbers guy" to write down how a word is pronounced.

[ZachS]

Goudey... goo-dee / gow-dee?

[nolemmings]

I believe it is see-kot

[Sean]

It is see-kot. There is even a Cicotte Avenue in Detroit named for Eddie, and the locals all call it see-kot.

[Eric72]

UH-zit
OOH-zit
YOU-zit
uh-ZIT
ooh-ZIT
you-ZIT

Shall I ask Mister Owl?

[t206hound]

Until recently I pronounced it "fine" and not "fee-nee"


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[bobbvc]

Originally Posted by sycks22

Pretty sure Ken Burns pronounces it "La Ja Way"

Pretty sure Ken Burns doesn't know what he's talking about at times.

[Theoldprofessor]

(Deacon) Phillippe = FIL - ah - pee

[Hankphenom]

A lot of them are mentioned by their contemporaries in the audio version of "The Glory Of Their Times," and I would go with that. For example, "Sy-Kot" and "Laa-jah-way."

[edjs]

Originally Posted by ZachS

Goudey... goo-dee / gow-dee?

I had a dealer call it good ee, like "an oldie but a goodie."

[packs]

When I was a kid I would see Red Schoendienst listed in price guides and had no idea how to say it. I was amazed when I heard someone else say it for the first time. Shane-deenst.

[Jayworld]

Originally Posted by Eric72

Given that the man's first name was Johannes...and the shortened version, "Hans" is found somewhat frequently...I believe Wagner's name was pronounced, "HA-nis" and not, "HO-nis."

Disclaimer: I have no idea how to write true phonetics. The above was merely a crude attempt by a "numbers guy" to write down how a word is pronounced.

Eric:
I asked my father about this, as he was born in 1931, and his dad (my grandfather) in 1901. He said that when Honus Wagner was a coach of the Pirates from the 1930s through the early 1950s Honus was referd to as "HOE-NUS." Also, my grandfather, who was in his teens during Honus' playing days, said that his name was "HOE-NUS".

Hope that helps....

[frankbmd]

Is the second "p" in Topps silent?

[arc2q]

Originally Posted by Theoldprofessor

(Deacon) Phillippe = FIL - ah - pee

The actor Ryan Phillippe is Deacon's great nephew and even named his child Deacon Phillippe. He pronounces it fil-EEP. But I guess that doesn't mean much as the name has probably changed in pronunciation and spelling as the family became more Americanized.

I've asked before but is it Sweet CAP-er-ul or cuh-POOR-ul?

[btcarfagno]

I always pronounce it kaa-poor-ahl. But I'm from Jersey so take that with a large grain of salt.

Tom C

[Jayworld]

Originally Posted by frankbmd

Is the second "p" in Topps silent?

Nice one, Frank...could not resist... it's like the silent "p" in "swimming"....

[t206hound]

Originally Posted by arc2q

The actor Ryan Phillippe is Deacon's great nephew and even named his child Deacon Phillippe. He pronounces it fil-EEP.

Really? I think I've always heard him referred to as FIL-A-PEE


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[Eric72]

Originally Posted by arc2q

I've asked before but is it Sweet CAP-er-ul or cuh-POOR-ul?

According to dictionary.com, the accent does not fall on the second syllable. Caporal is a type of tobacco, which is typically pronounced with an accent on the first syllable, and sometimes the third.

So, it is CAP-uh-rahl or cap-uh-RAHL.

[Sean]

Can someone please tell me how to pronounce Adolfo Luque? Is it loo-KAY?

[asoriano]

Goudey: 'gow-dee'

Uzit: 'you-zit'

Always wondered about Luque as well, Sean.

Edit: What about Fatima? 'fa-team-uh' or 'fat-im-uh'?

[btcarfagno]

Originally Posted by Sean

Can someone please tell me how to pronounce Adolfo Luque? Is it loo-KAY?

Luke.

I think.

Tom C

[T206Collector]

A lot of the players in 1939 can be heard talking on radio from Cooperstown. Obviously they pronounce the names correctly. I believe La-zha-way is how Nap is announced by the MC. You can pick up the CD here:

http://www.amazon.com/1939-Baseball-...seball+1939+cd

[Mikehealer]

Originally Posted by asoriano

Goudey: 'gow-dee'

Uzit: 'you-zit'

Always wondered about Luque as well, Sean.

Edit: What about Fatima? 'fa-team-uh' or 'fat-im-uh'?

I've heard both of the Fatima versions. Anyone know which is correct? I always say fa-team-uh.

[arc2q]

Originally Posted by t206hound

Really? I think I've always heard him referred to as FIL-A-PEE


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I have consulted my wife the entertainment guru as well as the Oracle (Google). You are correct. Ryan Phillippe is #1 on the "Celebrities Whose Names You Are Probably Mispronouncing" list. It is, therefore, Deacon FIL-A-PEE.

[Jantz]

This thread reminds me of the old SNL skit with Nicholas Cage.

His character's last name was Asswipe.

Pronounced as-wee-pay

[t206blogcom]

Cy-cot-e

Sweet-Cap-Or-Al

Gow-dee

U-zit

T-2-oh-6

[ILTBOC2]

I've always wondered about Bob Unglaub.... is it Un-glob or Oon-glob (oon as pronounced in noon or soon)?

[PowderedH2O]

I read somewhere that Johnny Evers was pronounced Ev-ers in baseball circles, but he grew up as E-vers and was always known in his hometown as such.

[wolf441]

Originally Posted by ILTBOC2

I've always wondered about Bob Unglaub.... is it Un-glob or Oon-glob (oon as pronounced in noon or soon)?

It's OON-GLOB!!, but you have to say it with a strident German accent! That's the only name that my wife and kids remember from the T206 set. It's just a fun name to say!!

[Paul S]

Originally Posted by wolf441

It's OON-GLOB!!, but you have to say it with a strident German accent! That's the only name that my wife and kids remember from the T206 set. It's just a fun name to say!!

He should have used an umlaut

[mybuddyinc]

Originally Posted by wolf441

It's OON-GLOB!!, but you have to say it with a strident German accent! That's the only name that my wife and kids remember from the T206 set. It's just a fun name to say!!

Steve,

Speaking of German name pronunciations: How do you pronounce your last name ? Wayl-ful ?

Although Austrian decent, Gross is Gross (as in "eeewww gross ), not rhyming with cross.

....... and speaking of strident German accents:

Schlei = Schlay

Wiltse = Wilt - za

[refz]

Larry Lajoie is the one that comes up the most. This is what ive heard over the years la-joy ,
la-ja-way, la-ja-wee. Ive heard more than one dealer pronounce it (la-hoy). Made me smirk.

[wolf441]

Originally Posted by mybuddyinc

Steve,

Speaking of German name pronunciations: How do you pronounce your last name ? Wayl-ful ?

Although Austrian decent, Gross is Gross (as in "eeewww gross ), not rhyming with cross.

....... and speaking of strident German accents:

Schlei = Schlay

Wiltse = Wilt - za

I've heard it pronounced a bunch of different ways. In my family, it's always been pronounced "Well-Full".

I once met a German woman who said it would have been pronounced "Volf-Lee", meaning "little wolf", but I've never heard anyone else pronounce it that way. And I think everyone in my family has had the nickname "Waffles" in school at one point in their lives!