Do you believe there are any undervalued Mantle items?

[KCRfan1]

Originally Posted by Brian Van Horn

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That is super cool Brian! Where did you pick those up at?

[Exhibitman]

I am picking up lesser grade Mantle cards that I want now, because the inflation will seep down the grade spectrum like it has with the 1952 Mantle and to some extent the 1954 Aaron, and I am afraid I will be paying a lot more if I wait. I am already too late to pick up a 1952 Mantle on budget and I had to settle for an Aaron RC that is nice for the grade but a bit below where I'd have liked to be. I could buy a 52T or 51B if I wanted to liquidate a big chunk of my collection but I don't want to do that. Plus, I am getting the cards that look like the ones I had when I was a kid. I bought one of these in about this shape for $3.25 at a card club auction around 1978. Cost me a bit more this time.



This one is actually an upgrade from the one I had as kid but again, the one I had in 1978 cost me $2:



As for undervalued, my suggestion:

[brian1961]

Nice Mantles, Adam. They sure are beauties. Yeah, there may be a trickle down effect on the values / listing price / prices paid for all period Mantles.

Though these do not concern you, the price for commemorative Mantles have also raised my eyebrows several times.

[brian1961]

Originally Posted by KCRfan1

Chris,

Is your Mantle Master Set now 391 / 399 ?

Hey Lou, Chris just informed me it's now 392 / 399; he's added Brian's nifty, small portrait card of a very young Commerce Comet to his already vast holdings! Quite a nice score; perhaps he will offer up Stan The Man for a fair price and recoup a hunk of his original purchase.

First, however, it would be beneficial to everyone if somehow he was able to identify the source of these 2 black 'n white pearls. It would seem they were part of a product package for an item the two baseball stars were endorsing.

Be that as it may, the image of Mickey is unique; I don't recall ever seeing it.

Again, nice pick-up Chris. Also, if I may say so, a very impressive, swift Bengal Tiger kill on your part, my friend. You wasted not a second to pounce on this hunka Mantle meat!

Kudos, my friend. ---Brian Powell

[KCRfan1]

Well that didn't take long did it Chris.

[pawpawdiv9]

Thats awesome Bestdj777 to grab those, i tried to research those, I remember seeing it before, like it was from a board game or something i thought at first. Still very cool.
Meanwhile, i picked up the 80's Ripken Orange card and got it today.

[Bestdj777]

Haha, thank you. I have been fortunate to pick up a number of Mantles over the years. I am currently at 397 unique items (445 total), with 5 more on my want list. It is a moving target though as I occasionally seeing things I never knew existed. Brian's card was one of those examples. Fortunately, we were able to work out a deal that was fair for both of us--he made a decent profit off of it (as he should have given that it was an awesome piece and worth more to me than what he had paid for it) and I added a card to my collection that I thought would fit nicely. My initial inclination is that it was cut from a box or magazine of some kind, but I have not been able to confirm. I hope to be able to track it down more once I have it in hand. I only purchased the Mantle, so I will be sharing any information with Brian on the other and that will hopefully allow him to bank some money on that one (or keep an awesome card in his collection).

[cammb]

All of his cards are overvalued, especially the double printed 52 Topps!!!

[KCRfan1]

Originally Posted by cammb

All of his cards are overvalued, especially the double printed 52 Topps!!!

The card should be twice as cheap!

[sandmountainslim]

I think the 1958 All Star Mantle is undervalued compared to his other fifties cards.

[KCRfan1]

Originally Posted by sandmountainslim

I think the 1958 All Star Mantle is undervalued compared to his other fifties cards.

I love the look of that card. Another Mantle that caught my attention is the 1962 Topps " The Switch Hitter Connects ". This card has Mantles yearly stats and shows him in action at the plate. The card is priced significantly less than his regular card.

[Samsdaddy]

Originally Posted by sandmountainslim

I think the 1958 All Star Mantle is undervalued compared to his other fifties cards.

I agree but glad it is undervalued as it is the only Mantle I own.

Part of the reason is I have all 58 All Stars. Great sub set.

[Topps206]

I've seen later year Mantle base cards under $100.00. That's rare. Almost anything Mantle base is sometimes more expensive than a T206 for some Hall of Famers.

[Exhibitman]

A few more issues I think are undervalued or underappreciated:


1965 Old London coin:

Requena Mantle-Maris:

1968 American Oil

[glynparson]

some cards mentioned are underpriced in the book but if went up for sale would command serious money, For example what would a dice game bring in auction in this market i think it would bring in a boatload. as for 58 all star if anything it is overpriced as it is such an easy card to acquire compared to the other as cards.

[KCRfan1]

Those are nice items Adam! The Dexter Press is a great picture of Mantle! Are those real signatures on the photo of Maris and Mantle?

[begsu1013]

i'd say the 54 topps card. seriously. most people don't even know it actually exists.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by begsu1013

i'd say the 54 topps card. seriously. most people don't even know it actually exists.

You mean the paper magazine cutout from SI?

[begsu1013]

yep. can still pick up full mags for less than $100. after all it is only the 2nd issue of SI to begin with and you get cards of mantle, whitey ford, berra, slaughter and the rest of the yankees.

if any of the tpg's started grading it, you can bet it will absolutely sky rocket in value. I have about 20 mags or so that I've quietly put away over the years.

I have never inquired to psa about grading them but may request it soon. technically they wouldn't grade any of the other cards as they were issued in packs, however the mantle wasn't and theoretically should....

edit: and it's more than just a paper cut out. they were issued in 3 page sheet form. it's definitely not the same case as the 66 ryan sporting news xrc.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by begsu1013

yep. can still pick up full mags for less than $100. after all it is only the 2nd issue of SI to begin with and you get cards of mantle, whitey ford, berra, slaughter and the rest of the yankees.

if any of the tpg's started grading it, you can bet it will absolutely sky rocket in value. I have about 20 mags or so that I've quietly put away over the years.

I have never inquired to psa about grading them but may request it soon. technically they wouldn't grade any of the other cards as they were issued in packs, however the mantle wasn't and theoretically should....

edit: and it's more than just a paper cut out. they were issued in 3 page sheet form. it's definitely not the same case as the 66 ryan xrc

Yes I have seen the sheets, but if you cut out the Mantle doesn't it become a cut out?

[begsu1013]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Yes I have seen the sheets, but if you cut out the Mantle doesn't it become a cut out?

would still be numerically graded, it would just be designated "hand cut" on the left side, bottom line of a psa flip.

and after all, consider ya get $25 for the rest of the team...that's berra, ford, slaughter and co.....what other non-reprinted card from the 50's can you grab of the mick for $75, let alone a topps version that never was supposed to exist?

the thread is about undervalued mantles and I think you'd be hard-pressed to find another one w/ the capability to sky rocket like this one could with such a minimal investment.

[KCRfan1]

You realize that we all may be in a rush to buy this issue now.

[Peter_Spaeth]

I did not realize they grade the magazines now.

Only 499.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Sports-Illus...QAAOSwymxVQ7Bj

[begsu1013]

Originally Posted by KCRfan1

You realize that we all may be in a rush to buy this issue now.

that's why ive waited to post about it until i purchased the qty i was comfy with having! probably why i haven't pushed or inquired to psa about grading them just yet either!



edit: and for any conspiracy theorists, don't worry. i wasn't posting to inflate the price. i hardly ever sell and you wont see any listed from me.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by begsu1013

that's why ive waited to post about it until i purchased the qty i was comfy with having! probably why i haven't pushed or inquired to psa about grading them just yet either!

Now he wants to drive up the market!!

[Peter_Spaeth]

PSA grades Swedish Rekord Pele and Clay cards that are just cut from the magazine cover. Oklahoma TToday Mantle too, I think. Might be thicker than these though?

[begsu1013]

i have an ok today card, but its graded so couldn't tell ya on that one. never touched it.

but they are thicker than the standard magazine/newspaper stock. also a lil glossier than a std magazine page.

again it is a 3 page fold out (9 cards per sheet) so it's not the standard stock of the rest of the mag.


here's that ok card and also an example of a hand-cut card that's graded but w/ the "hc" designation.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Oops, OT Mantle is NOT from the cover, it's from a sheet.

http://oct09.hugginsandscott.com/cgi...l?itemid=14305

[ls7plus]

Originally Posted by glynparson

some cards mentioned are underpriced in the book but if went up for sale would command serious money, For example what would a dice game bring in auction in this market i think it would bring in a boatload. as for 58 all star if anything it is overpriced as it is such an easy card to acquire compared to the other as cards.

Glyn makes an excellent point with regard to items so rare and significant (it's Mantle!) that they hardly ever come up for sale or auction--you can usually throw the book away for these cards. Once they and their rarity become known, there's a huge amount of pent-up demand.

Re the "58 All-Star, yes, it is quite common, but if Bob Costas keeps putting them in his wallet unprotected until they wear out, maybe they won't be!

Happy collecting, guys,

Larry

[ALR-bishop]

The 3 Topps Mantles I do not have are the 61 Dice, 66 Punch Out and 68 Disc. There are two board members who have the Dice card. Not sure about the 66 Punch Out or 68 Disc, but I have seen them. The Dice card has sold for a lot but well under high grade versions of the 52 card, which in my mind demonstrates the extremely high demand for that relatively easy to find card.

The Dice card is B&W and the 67 and 68 Discs are small non cards, and the 66 Punch out is a small head shot, but am surprised the 67 Stand Up, in either form ( mine is a proof), does not go for more money when and if it ever comes up, because it is a great looking "card"

[begsu1013]

al,

can you post pics of the items your are talking about?

[ALR-bishop]

The only scan I have is of my 67 Stand Up. I have both versions of the 67 Punch Out, but not the 66 ( or any examples). I have the 67 Disc ( on an uncut sheet), but not the 68. The only Dice card I have is a Kaline. Maybe Larry can post his 61 Mantle Dice. Not sure if he has the 66 Punch Out, but maybe

[sflayank]

underpriced

[hcv123]

Attached find image of 66 punchout mentioned by Al- not mine - ridiculously rare! I owned a 1968 disc at one point a LONG time ago. Should have an image somewhere - not sure where right now. Also Jello box - undervalued imho.