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Old 03-25-2005, 09:24 AM
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Posted By: Scott Forrest

I don't collect baseball cards anymore, but recently purchased these two Babe Ruth RPPC's from Frank - I could not resist the one on the left since there is a huge poster of it at the Pool Hall I frequent and I've been looking for a smaller version for years. The one on the back is blank-backed, from the '30s.

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Old 03-25-2005, 09:33 AM
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two Fan Craze (Huggins, Willis), a MYOB, two Starffins--Russian pitcher who pitched his whole life in Japan, and a very nice GAI 3 Collins.

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Old 03-25-2005, 11:00 AM
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also appears as a card in the 1925-29 PC back Exhibit set.

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Old 03-25-2005, 11:05 AM
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Scott, Very nice cards/postcards.

I have been trying to get a hold of Frank for some time. I have the email that is on his website but haven't gotten a response in a few months? Do you have a different email?

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Old 03-25-2005, 11:28 AM
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Old 03-25-2005, 11:42 AM
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Old 03-25-2005, 11:43 AM
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I'll probably end up having to sell this one, but here is my most recent pickup, a '54 Wilson Franks Williams:

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Old 03-25-2005, 11:53 AM
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Real nice Williams card. I can't do it. As a vegetarian, it's just kind of nasty to me ... What happened to a good old american Broccoli set?

Harry

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Old 03-25-2005, 01:22 PM
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Posted By: jay behrens

just got this. It's narrow, but for $150 I'm not gonna complain.



Still waiting for the Thorpe to arrive.

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Old 03-25-2005, 01:40 PM
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Nice card Ben, let me know when you plan to get rid of it, maybe we can work something out.

My latest pickup; not for vegetarians :

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Old 03-25-2005, 03:51 PM
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Posted By: Bob Marquette

A hodge-podge of cards from different sets.

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Old 03-25-2005, 05:30 PM
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A Neilsons Rousch with a great wet sheet ghost on the back. Yay, another printing flub for my collection!

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Old 03-25-2005, 07:12 PM
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Old 03-25-2005, 08:43 PM
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Posted By: Dan Koteles

really great stuff everyone, I really enjoy the variances of collectors.

i was able to overpay for another Victory ...F.Smith....hooray for me , but I honestly liked looking at your stuff better. thanks

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Old 03-26-2005, 12:05 AM
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Posted By: Lee Behrens

Picked up a T206 Addie Joss with no name. I have not received it yet, but I suspect it is printers scrap.



I also picked up a T206 Frank Smith, Chicago & Boston, with a Piedmont 460, factory 42 back.

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Old 03-26-2005, 01:38 AM
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Posted By: Anonymous

Hi Guys,

I like this one! I know some of you may not be too interested in cricket items but for me it is an integral part of early baseball's development.

The item in question is a circa 1858 ambrotype of a boy holding a ball in one hand and a cricket bat in the other. Those of you who are interested in early dags and ambrotypes will know just how difficult it is to find them with any props at all never mind sports equipment (photographers would not let their subjects - adults never mind kids - hold anything due to the likely blurring of the picture due to even the slightest movement during the 1 or so minutes it took to burn the image).

They are so difficult to find in fact that it is rumoured that there are only 8 baseball dag/amro solid types know to exist and even then I think there is only about 1 of those that actually shows equipment (most are like the Knickerbockers Dag or the Cartwright ambro/dags, picturing known players in street clothes - no equipment)

The other interesting thing is that it is not English either but comes from Brooklyn. It was purchased from a US dealer and has a NY Studio stamp on the back of the frame. As you know in the 1850's in NY, cricket was even more popular than baseball and even had the Wright family as devout followers!

Anyway, enough of my ramblings, I hope you find the images of interest.


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Old 03-27-2005, 08:48 AM
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Old 03-27-2005, 04:48 PM
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And boy was the pressman loaded when he did these:



Yeah, ol' Roger may be missing a border but I couldn't resist:

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Old 03-27-2005, 05:26 PM
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Posted By: Scott Forrest

...wet his sheet

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Old 03-29-2005, 09:37 PM
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Posted By: Josh K.

just won this - leaving me only the green to obtain. Low grade, but nice for the technical grade IMO.

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Posted By: Julie

because of what it does to his eyes.

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Posted By: Josh K.

Julie -

Are you saying that the register is good or bad? It looks good to me, but I often find it hard to tell for sure until I get the card in person.

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Posted By: Glenn

Okay, this is a better picture than what I posted initially.



The color on the Ruth is seriously washed out (sun damage? printing flaw? any other guesses?), but otherwise I think it's a great card.

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Posted By: jay behrens

Looks like the Ruth card is missing the red color.

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Old 03-30-2005, 09:39 AM
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Posted By: Glenn

Jay,

Are you saying that the card was printed this way, without (or with very little) red ink? If so, I agree. Have you seen other Goudeys with the same appearance?

Because the color of Ruth's uniform (which presumably requires hardly any red ink) is still quite bold, I tend to think the color was always like this and is not just the effect of years of fading. Also, as far as I can tell, the texture of the card is unaffected.

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Posted By: Wesley

My guess is the card was left under the light too long and faded.

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Posted By: jay behrens

The card looksmlike it got the last of red ink before it ran out. If it was fading due to light I'd think you would see some toning of the paper too and that just isn't there. I ahve seen others like this, but my guess is that the red ink was almost gone

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Posted By: Robert

I had a printing company for many years many years ago and I can tell you this that the Red or Magenta is the color that has the least amost of stead fastness which means that it will fade much quicker then the other colors Cyan, Yellow and black especially if exposed to direct sun light. I think that the card has faded from to much direct exposure and not because the press operator ran out of red ink. Just my 2 cents

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Posted By: Paul

My experience has also been that red fades the most, especially in 1941 Play Balls.

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Posted By: Gilbert Maines

If the card has faded, what impact do you imagine that would have on the grade?

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Old 03-31-2005, 07:51 AM
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Fantastic job! Portrait is taken from Old Judge card; painting of photo from The National Pastime, 19th century pictoral, 1984: Beaneasters and New Yorks 1886.

Coming soon to my website.

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Posted By: Wesley

Julie, Monty did a really good job on the ball. The first photo is great!

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Posted By: jamie

why is rad flicking me off?

cool ball by the way

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Posted By: Scott Forrest

Did you commission it?

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Posted By: Julie

or he'll get his own, if you want to leave the whole thing up to him. Standard ball has two paintings, with two quarters of printing, and an identifying name on the end.
Again, you yoursdelf can write every word of the printing, or leave it all up to him, or anything in between.

If you decide to commission a ball,I recommend that you and Monty chew the fat (e-mail, phone or both) about the player, the ball, the photos you want used--everything. The better he gets to know your ideas, the better the ball will be for you. This one was the first sepia ball (the Old Judge card) he had made, and we both think it came out real well.


his website: montysheldon.com (lots, but by no means all, the balls he has made)
e-mail: montysheldon@montysheldon.com

Since we have 2 baseball cards and 2-3 photos of Hoss flipping the bird (including the photo the painting on my ball was taken from), we figure that he spent a fair amount of time flipping people off. Hence: "A characteristic gesture" printed under the picture on the ball.

There's also a good deal of printing on the ball, and there will be at least 4 shots of it on my website, and the Sheldon website and e-mail address.

I won't print the price here (I'm aleready afraid this post will be relegated to BST), but--they are prtty expensive.

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Posted By: Julie Vognar

It's ten times nicer than the photos. It looks like he spent 100s of hours on it. The background for all the printing is the same light sepia as the background for the portrait, and he's incorporated the stitches into the disigns on both sides. The "HOSS RADBOURNE" is not a true red, but a sort of red-brown, and the painting of the photo with the bird looks like a true photograph. I love the way the stiches on the right of the photo go right across the faces of the two men to Hoss's right.

One side of the printing deals with his stats, election to Hall, his personality, brith and death, and the other side with his miraculous season of 1884.

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Posted By: Bob Marquette

Julie- can you give me a rough idea what he charges for the balls? I would love to get a Buck Weaver ball with the T207 and Zeenut pics on it.

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Posted By: Scott Forrest

I have to assume a Kelly ball is in the works?

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Posted By: ockday

really nice card from a real tough set


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Posted By: Julie Vognar

..amd when you see it, you'll know why there's no Kelly in the works! If there is no price on the website (address just given), e-mail him at montysheldon@montysheldon.com

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