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Holy Rate Increases, Batman
Posted By: Lee Behrens
I just went to UPS to ship off $2200 worth of cards (44cards), it cost me over $38 to ship and insure, to SGC. I shipped a package to SGC 124 cards ($10.000 worth of insurance) and it cost $41. There insurance rate has been increased to $1.50 per $100. |
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Holy Rate Increases, Batman
Posted By: runscott
I did the same thing recently - found out it was a franchise that used to be "mail boxes etcetera". They let these UPS "stores" practice highway robbery. I then went to an office supply store that had a UPS desk inside, and paid 1/3 of the price. |
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Holy Rate Increases, Batman
Posted By: Anonymous
If you didn't, I'd try either USPS Registered or FedEx. You would have to prove the value of the package either way, but FedEx "declared value" is $0.50 per $100. |
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Holy Rate Increases, Batman
Posted By: Rob M (ramram)
If I recall, I believe I heard that Fedex won't cover collectibles with their insurance. Does anybody on the board know if that is correct?? Also, as Scott mentioned, shipping directly with UPS and not The UPS Store, Mail Boxes Etc., etc. is much, much cheaper on the insurance. I would guess it is because UPS self insures. |
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Holy Rate Increases, Batman
Posted By: mrc32
If you have ever had your cards lost in the mail, you would understand how that money spent on insurance is the best "insurance money can buy." |
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Holy Rate Increases, Batman
Posted By: petecld
Fedex: From what I understand Fedex liability is limited. Going from memory here but the amount $500 comes to mind but I could be wrong. |
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Holy Rate Increases, Batman
Posted By: Rob M (ramram)
Also, if you ship quite often I believe you can pick up an insurance rider from a business (and maybe even a home)insurance carrier that will cover you. Typically they have requirements such as requiring you to ship only via USPS Registered Mail. Then you don't have to insure through the carrier. |
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Holy Rate Increases, Batman
Posted By: runscott
I ship 2-day Fedex fairly often, and I always tell them that it's a baseball card, and give them a value to insure it for. I've never had a compaint or been questioned, and I've insured cards for up to $5,000. |
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Holy Rate Increases, Batman
Posted By: Tom Boblitt
continues to be 35 cents per $100 over the first $100 which is included with the transportation cost (unlike the $1.20 you pay through the USPS for $100 insurance). The UPS stores (formerly Mailboxes etc.) charge more for insurance as they are franchise operations and that's one way that they make money. They (UPS Stores), in some cases, also have shipping through Fedex or DHL (although Fedex has pulled out of most UPS Stores) and they charge the same rates on insurance for those services as well. |
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Holy Rate Increases, Batman
Posted By: Tom Boblitt
but just be careful if what you're sending is not replaceable. A PSA5 T206 Cobb is pretty replaceable. You might call their general customer service number to check it out. I don't know Fedex's. I'm sure it's on their website. UPS's is 1-800-pick-UPS. |
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Holy Rate Increases, Batman
Posted By: runscott
They charged similar rates as UPS, but charged a massive premium for insurance. For example, a package that "the real UPS" charged me $24 to ship was going to cost $70 at the former Mailboxes,etc store. If this has changed in the last 4 weeks, UPS needs to do a better job of communicating it to us, as I now avoid their stores like the plague. |
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Holy Rate Increases, Batman
Posted By: Tom Boblitt
I can't confirm what all 4000+ UPS Store/Mailboxes Etc stores are doing. About 400-500 of the 4000+ stores elected NOT to change their name to UPS Store as, by doing so, Fedex pulled most of their services from their stores. Stores that had heavy Fedex business probably elected to retain the Mailboxes Etc name. Don't know for sure but something's running right because UPS small package traffic to/through the stores is up about 150% since the name change which more than offsets the loss of Fedex/DHL business. Some of that is for customers who, as I stated earlier, use UPS.com for their shipments and drop them at the stores. |
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Holy Rate Increases, Batman
Posted By: Tom Boblitt
is at www.iship.com |
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Holy Rate Increases, Batman
Posted By: Lee Behrens
When this UPS Store opened a block away from my house. I went in and asked the cost of shipping a package thru the store if there was any extra charge. I was told it was the same as going to the UPS where the trucks are. I called the UPS 800 number and foound oout that yes the shipping charges are the same but everything else is going to cost you more including insurance, it is .35 per $100 at the "truck garage" and $1.50 per $100 at the UPS Store. i am going to talk to them tomorrow and hopefully get this resolved. |
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Holy Rate Increases, Batman
Posted By: Eric Pugh
DHL is the best value in express shipping - for the transportation costs - if you do an ounce of legwork in getting your account set up. Insurance is the same as the others - 50 cents per $100 - but be very careful, baseball cards and the like are not insurable per the service guide (from Airborne Express - now owned by DHL). |
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Holy Rate Increases, Batman
Posted By: leon
If they advertise it like your last sentence then you answered your own question. Shipping and insurance are two different things. They certainly could ( and probably should) advertise they ship for the same rate if they do. I would. It's business and a little sneaky but hey....they gotta stay in business. My guess is a few things....1. overhead at a small store is higher per square foot than a "garage" 2. If there is a perceived "service" value to handing a package off when you go grocery shopping then people will do it, relative to the expense/value. 3. Folks who aren't lazy (counts most Americans out) will still go elsewhere (the garages) 4. well, sort of goes back to staying in business....later |
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Holy Rate Increases, Batman
Posted By: Julie
charged me $50 insurance for a $500 ($555) card. The card was rare and the hockey player famous, so I paid it--I was afraid he'd just sell the thing to the next highest bidder. |
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Holy Rate Increases, Batman
Posted By: runscott
Some people are just whacky |
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Holy Rate Increases, Batman
Posted By: Tom Boblitt
as someone stated earlier, UPS is self-insured in the damage/loss department. The excess value insurance is collected and any damages or claims for loss are paid from the amount collected. It is typically into the high 10's of millions of dollars (claims that is). I would suspect that Fedex and DHL/Airborne run roughly the same type of operation (at a higher cost--50 cents versus 35 cents per $100 valuation). |
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Holy Rate Increases, Batman
Posted By: Lee Behrens
I talked to the owner of the UPS Store today. She basically told me tough luck and that was corporate policy. This falls under lesson learned and I will not do business with them again. |
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Holy Rate Increases, Batman
Posted By: warshawlaw
The best thing you can do is to purchase a private policy of insurance on an "all risk" basis from a decent carrier. These policies insure the items against all risks except those listed in the exclusions provisions of the policies. Unless I am seriously misreading the policy form (always a possibility with insurance) my State Farm policy will cover me if the cards being sent to SGC are lost in transit. The only caveat is that you must be sure to schedule the cards with your agent in order to have coverage. |
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Holy Rate Increases, Batman
Posted By: leon
Hate to sort of pose another question so quick but this is just normal stuff....You mentioned to "schedule" your cards. Have you ever priced scheduling of valuables on your homeowners? I haven't on cards but have on jewelery and art. It ain't cheap. I dropped the jewelery rider this year (knock on wood) because of it's expense but went ahead and kept the art insurance, as it wasn't too bad. I can only imagine that sports cards would be more if they can be done at all....otherwise, good points.....best regards |
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