I just bought this ball and need help

[5worldseries]

The young guy I bought it from said it was his grandfather's and that he had owned the william penn hotel and got this auto at the all star game . My questions are why would ernie put chi cubs 1970 ?

These guys were all here at the 1959 all star game would it be from then ?
Do these all look right ?
The ball is a national leauge giley ball .


Thanks for the help

[Tao_Moko]

I don't love that Mantle sig. He and Williams have balls out their co signed like yours. Not trying to poopoo anything, just a few things off on the Mantle for me.

Second look just at the Aaron and the "H" is also unusual. He had variations over the years, but that separation doesn't look right to me.

Someone on here can answer with more confidence. I'm no expert. Hope it's real.

[FrankWakefield]

As above, neither am I an expert....

That's a worrisome ball.

I saw the ball, started to post, then didn't. Then I dug out a box that has HOF signed postcards in it... The Aaron signature is not consistent. I too don't like that Mantle signature. The Chi-Cubs 1970... how'd that get on there??? That's a red flag.

I think a bigger flag is the pen. That looks like a fairly modern pen... not a navy blue ballpoint pen from 50 years ago.

2 All Star games in 1959, the first one was in Pittsburg, where that hotel was. His grandfather owned the hotel. I'm 60-something, my Grandfather owned stuff, he passed away 41 years ago... I'm just guessing that its unlikely that a "young guy" would have a grandfather who owned a hotel in 1959. Wiki that.... Sheraton bought that hotel in 1956, sold in in 1968.

I'd think that some of the big mean thug types here on the board (I'm a wimp) should accompany you when you find that "young man" to get your money back. That's the help you need with that ball.

[5worldseries]

He said his great grandfather owned that hotel and he got these signatures.
He was 35 years old as a guess. I am the one that is going with 1959 cause that when the all star game was here ....that's what was confusing to me why ernie banks would put chi cubs 1970 in 1959...the 1970 allstar game was in cinncy which is very close to pgh ....but William's and mantle weren't in the game ?

But all speculation they could have been all different times and places .

[keithsky]

It looks like the 500hr balls that were faked back in the 90's with Williams and Mantle on the sweet spot. I'm not an expert either but doesn't look right.

[5worldseries]

How does this look ? This is a 500 he ball for sure ,thanks for the help

[rand1com]

The Mantle is not authentic on the original posted ball. It is also not a typical 500 home run forgery from the 80's either. They always signed all 11 then living members of the club. The Williams, Banks, Mays, and Mathews are not nearly as bad as the Mantle but I agree they are still suspect. I would do a Beckett "Quick Opinion" for $10 and if they say "Likely not Authentic" as I suspect, you should be able to use that to get your money back.