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The part of the study that I found most interesting is that it was funded by Theranova Inc., that created and spun out the privately funded company JustAir, that was the manufacturer of the powered air purifying respirator (PAPR) used for the study. Feel free to decide if there was any real or perceived bias in the study.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TX-2TZZu7Kg Another showing multi layer and surgical, plus unmasked. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DNeYfUTA11s Simulated cough through a variety of face coverings. https://www.fau.edu/newsdesk/article...oronavirus.php One using bacteria growth. https://www.wral.com/coronavirus/thi...irus/19169675/ I saw a very good one using a particle counter to test different materials, but can't find it now. The ones above only show the limiting of outgoing droplets and particles, but the particle counter showed the potential to limit intake. The best common material was surprising, no woven polypropylene, or reusable shopping bags. At the maker space we also looked at it under an electron microscope and it was obviously really close to being equal to N-95. |
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Probably because fixing the lifetime of less than perfect choices takes a lot longer than the month or two we had to get things under control.
I'm a bit over weight, and dont exercise enough. (And on a card collecting board, who would have figured...) How do you suppose I could lose 40-50lbs and fix my cardio to gym rat levels in two months with a late 50's body? ANd do that in 2 months? |
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If you truly believe what you write, then you are in fact simply trading one fear for another and supporting that choice with a lot of bluster. Hypocrisy? Yep. |
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My "fears" (as you call them; concerns would be a better word) don't result in me demanding you change your life to make me feel comfortable.
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I have always thought a great example of good government regulation is weights and measures (whatever the actual department name is... maybe Commerce?) When I'm driving cross country and stop at a gas station, it's good to know when I buy 15 gallons of gas from a station I will never visit again, I am actually going to get 15 gallons. On the mask thing, and speaking of slippery slopes, I wonder this: If a person with HIV infects someone, they can be held criminally liable. What if someone who had Covid sneezed on an elderly, vulnerable person, who then died of Covid complications? I suppose the first thing would be to try to establish it was that specific person who introduced the virus to the victim. Suppose that could be done without reasonable doubt. Did the person know they had Covid? Should they have known? Did they have symptoms, and did they test themself? And, finally, did they take any precautions, like masking up? If this whole Covid thing was playing out differently, meaning, if lawsuits were flying against people suspected of willfully spreading the virus, I'll bet a lot more people would be using masks, if for no other reason than to protect themselves against liability. That's my random thought for the day. |
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See? We're consistent. Don't tread on me.
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But at the height of the pandemic refusing to wear a mask was treading on me. Just like driving drunk treads on me. I’d understand the fear mongering if mask mandates have stayed in place. When numbers have gotten better they have gone away.
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Sadly so.
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On a completely different topic, does anyone else remember how obnoxious they were in their 20's?
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No it wasn't. You had every right not to go out in public.
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To quote Judge Smails, "Well? We're waiting."
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Isn’t ageism one of those ism prejudices enlightened folks believe to be bad, like racism, sexism, etc.?
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However, obnoxiousness, poor judgement, and being a cocksure AH is generally attributed to immaturity, regardless of whatever "logical merits" may or may not be present. Myself definitely included.
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And I don't believe them to be bad. They are bad. Do you not agree?
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My only comment is that if you believe politicians over scientists on any issue you are a complete and utter idiot.
Is science always right. Of course not. By definition it is our best known understanding of how things work based on the state of human knowledge. It is refined and revised over time. That’s called the scientific process. It’s not complete bullshit some idiot politician pulls out of his or her ass. Last edited by Snapolit1; 08-10-2022 at 06:32 PM. |
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If anything we learned 100% this virus spread just like a common cold. Lysol and cleaning products kills it on surfaces. and washing your hands with soap and hot water is a good defense. I'm still not sure why scientists claimed they didn't know any of this in the beginning. It seems like a simple lab test would prove what it is. And how it spreads.
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I think the gas example is a good one, and I agree. Three industries that come to mind right away where I think more regulation would benefit consumers (the specific regulation would look different in each case) are 1) banking, 2) airlines, 3) cable companies. Various companies in these spaces regularly operate in unethical ways and our government allows them to get away with it (and in some cases, gives them government handouts). As to the HIV/COVID scenario you bring up, I have to think about that more before opining.
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This is a hard concept for people to grab apparently.
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Thank you for crystallizing my thoughts. I'm going to have to respond to his idiotic comment in a separate post.
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You can save yourself the time. Really not interested in anything else people have to say in this thread.
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My example, to be clear, was regulation of individual gas stations, not the gas industry. When I go to a gas station I'll never go to again, and the owner sees my out of state plate and figures that out, he could be tempted to cheat me, knowing I'd have little recourse. But because his dispensers are regularly checked for accuracy by the government, it's very difficult for him to do so. |
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I got your meaning on the gas station example. My examples are different, but I shared them as I think they would potentially provide the same sort of benefit to consumers (knowing that you won't get bumped from an overbooked flight, for example).
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Perhaps the same way they "know" that "crime in (insert name of large city) is out of control!" and "acknowledging that gay and trans people exist is corrupting our youth!"
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One thing this thread reveals if nothing else, there may be an inverse correlation between knowledge and arrogance.
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I am greatly amused that the response to my post is to ask if, or suggest I am racist, sexist and/or ageist because I am cognizant of what a belief is, from the guy throwing ageist attacks at someone else. Pray, continue the witch-hunt for ism's only from people you might disagree with. |
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I believe there have been numerous scientific studies showing that to be true. Or as the venerable Dr. Phil put it, "he who yells loudest and last ain't right!"
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2) So...it's "despicable to call what medical professionals went through as "the front lines?" Ever consult the dictionary? "Front line: the most important or influential position in a debate or movement." I don't know where you live, but where I live, the healthcare workers most certainly were the most important movement locally. And you're oblivious if you don't think there was a shortage of nurses. There certainly was a shortage of doctors and other hospital staffers. Are you gonna debate that too? Because you can easily google and find out that many medical schools called in their 4th year medical students to assist because in fact, so many hospitals were short of doctors (and nurses) in the first few months of the spike. 3) Nice try again with #3. Trump did more to spread COVID at his rallies and WH events (during the heights of the pandemic before a vaccine was available) than Obama. And oh, the National? Well, maybe if people would have masked up and took precautions...but there were too many folks that thought like you, and didn't want to breath in slightly more CO2 I guess, so they went maskless and found out. But those that were fully vaccinated....at least most didn't get hospitalized and die like Herman Cain, who I believe attended a Trump super-spreader. 4) Nice that you are a dog lover. Hey, common ground I guess because I am too. But I recognize the role that animals play in translational health research. That research has probably saved the life of you or your family members at some point. And rules are in place to use the least sentient species to do health-related research and to use as few as possible and only under the most humane and ethical conditions possible. Now, looking at the rest of your gibberish in your #4 diatribe, it's clear what your mindset is. "Better ask him in Chinese...Wuhan" tells me all I need to know about you. Because of your last comments in #4 that you made, among other nonsense you've spouted in your passive-aggressive posts and your "attempts to belittle" demeanor, I won't be reading or responding to any more of your posts. There is nothing that you can possibly say on this topic and little about memorabilia that I feel I can trust or that I care to hear your opinions about. But...I do hope you stay healthy and that you, too enjoy your night. |
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We are not in a court of law; we are engaged in a debate where the philosophical divide established by Aristotle and predominant in the west for 2,500 years has been the standard. A claim to fact, and an opinion on morals and ethics and what is right and wrong are two very, very different things and have been recognized as such for many, many centuries.
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No; I said, quote, " A claim to fact, and an opinion on morals and ethics and what is right and wrong are two very, very different things and have been recognized as such for many, many centuries." I did not say a claim to fact and this kind of opinion are the ONLY "very, very different things", or that this is the ONLY type of opinion there is. In fact, I acknowledge the opposite by giving a specific kind of opinion; the specificity would be pointless if the argument was that this is what all opinion constitutes. I'm sure you can get me for something I've said, but I'm not sure why we would want to argue that an opinion and a fact are not different, and this line sure isn't it.
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If you are asking me about the different definitions used in a non-philosophical, moral, political, or ethical context; specifically in a court of law in a case of securities fraud, then my reply is that I do not have any opinion on that and it is utterly and completely irrelevant to anything under discussion. Deertick was asking if I am, or suggesting I might, a racist, not a person guilty of securities fraud. |
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I understand why airlines overbook flights - to cover themselves against cancellations. I've long thoght the simple solution would be to offer guaranteed seating. A customer pays for his ticket, understanding it is non-refundable. The airline is guaranteed that seat is sold and the customer is guaranteed that seat is his. People who want to have the option of cancelling if they must can reserve tickets the usual way, understanding it's a two-way street: they can cancel on the airline, and the airline can bump them. |
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They are all out to get you. There is a pizza parlor pedophile ring etc etc.
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ETA - I don't pay for cable tv and never have. Clearly I'm on my way to the "life on net54" camp.
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Washing hands with warm water and soap...more effective than a paper surgical mask? What say you? What about Orignal.models "flattening the curve" showed more deaths over a longer period but not inundating hospitals. Those would.be the heros that sacrificed.
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"Reduces respiratory illnesses, like colds, in the general population by 16-21%". So theres that, I guess they didnt know that science in the beginning.
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