PWCC Auctions - Mystery Bid Post Auction?

[STL1944]

I know... I know... Why did I even bother?

I thought I would check out the new auction format for PWCC and ended up impulsively bidding for a card (which I didn't even need).

See the post auction experience below...

Email: Congratulations! You Won! Total Due: $26
Website: Congratulations! You Won! Total Due: $66



I have emailed customer support...

[mrreality68]

Sorry to Hear/See that

Ok that is beyond odd.
Was there really another bid? IS there some extreme fees?

Have you reached out to them?

[ullmandds]

“Thank you sir may i have another?”

[Leon]

Originally Posted by ullmandds

“Thank you sir may i have another?”

LOL....maybe they shilled the system?

[carlsonjok]

Originally Posted by mrreality68

Sorry to Hear/See that

Ok that is beyond odd.
Was there really another bid? IS there some extreme fees?

Have you reached out to them?

I decided to watch a few cards that I need for my set builds. I figured if was more likely that the first auction out of the gates would be less likely to have any apparent shenanigans. Most everything finished outside my budget, so no loss to me. But, the thing that will keep me from bidding on their future auctions is that the closed auctions don't show any bid history, as near as I can tell.

With all the other auction houses I deal with, you can see bid history (but not any type of bidder identification.) With eBay, not only can you see bid history, you can also see an anonymized bidder identification and from that ID you can see that bidders history with the particular seller. It isn't complete proof, but with the history information you can start to get some notion as to whether shill bidding may be happening.

The opacity of this new PWCC platform is enough to keep me away. Though, I swim in the shallow end of the hobby pool, so no great loss to them. I am sure they won't even notice.

[bobbyw8469]

Well...to be honest, the $26 seems a little on the light side. But I have sold a ton of cards on the light side recently. Maybe the $66 was their hidden reserve?

[bobbyw8469]

Can you put up a link to the auction?

[JimmyArcher]

Went to bed last night thinking I had won a T205 Cicotte at $105. Auction for the individual card had closed and didn't appear that any additional bids could be made.

Woke up this morning and found that somehow I had been outbid and the auction had closed at $155.

[bobbyw8469]

Originally Posted by JimmyArcher

Went to bed last night thinking I had won a T205 Cicotte at $105. Auction for the individual card had closed and didn't appear that any additional bids could be made.

Woke up this morning and found that somehow I had been outbid and the auction had closed at $155.

I am thinking they are pushing these up to meet hidden reserves. No one is to question anything they say or do. Me personally, I will pass. The last guy I remember doing stuff like that was the Battlefield guy who took his auctions off Ebay (after he was booted off).

[bobbyw8469]

There is zero way to see the bid history or anything??? Someone got an email that he won at one price, then got an invoice for a HUGE markup!!! That doesn't look good.

[mrreality68]

Originally Posted by bobbyw8469

I am thinking they are pushing these up to meet hidden reserves. No one is to question anything they say or do. Me personally, I will pass. The last guy I remember doing stuff like that was the Battlefield guy who took his auctions off Ebay (after he was booted off).

+1 from their time on Ebay their reputation and now on there own site and hearing these type of things.

I am staying on the side lines on their auctions

It is a shame they do have some cards at times I would love to get.

But not worth it to me

[Bartholomew_Bump_Bailey]

This supposedly set me back $21.40 shipped, I'll updated again if/when it arrives

[Gb5151]

I had the same experience. Winning bid email and invoice vastly different. Thank goodness my max bids were low so i still came out pretty good, but their website is horrible.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Gb5151

I had the same experience. Winning bid email and invoice vastly different. Thank goodness my max bids were low so i still came out pretty good, but their website is horrible.

Given the importance of first impressions, I am surprised they did not test it more effectively.

[Lorewalker]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Given the importance of first impressions, I am surprised they did not test it more effectively.

If they can continue to do massive business in the face of a federal investigation pertaining to shilling and card doctoring maybe we are WELL PAST first impressions.

[Republicaninmass]

Originally Posted by Lorewalker

If they can continue to do massive business in the face of a federal investigation pertaining to shilling and card doctoring maybe we are WELL PAST first impressions.

"Its not dandruff, its dry scalp"

.....right

[Flintboy]

Why is it so difficult to run an auction platform/website? I’ve heard nothing but horror stories on how they are run, from bad invoicing all the way to website crashes.