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Old 07-09-2019, 02:11 AM
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Old 07-09-2019, 02:13 AM
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Old 07-09-2019, 02:47 AM
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I would say his wife. He was Tyrus Raymond (T.R.) Cobb, so she would have been Mrs. T.R. Cobb (the person he wrote the check to).

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Your image isn't coming up for me but does it look like this?

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Old 07-09-2019, 05:36 AM
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Yes that’s it.

Is it the wife in the study with the candlestick?
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Fun questions: how many signatures does that check have? How many autographs? Would a card company that decided to cut it make it into three cut auto cards?
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Old 07-09-2019, 06:37 AM
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I suppose Cobb writing “Mrs. T.R. Cobb” is not an autograph.
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I suppose Cobb writing “Mrs. T.R. Cobb” is not an autograph.
I think the question was.......as a "cut" so in effect, if someone cut the T.R. Cobb away from the Mrs. then it could be looked upon as a Ty Cobb signature. He wrote Mrs. (obviously not his sig but his handwriting), then he wrote T.R. Cobb which is in his hand and is certainly his signature just in a different manner. Possessive manner.
There are certainly two ways of looking at that. I for one would have no problem owning that cut.

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I think over 70 percent of autos are fake and thus I don't collect autos. Don't like cuts either where folks ruin the entire piece he signed. If I was to collect an auto I would think owning an old bank check would be the best way to go. Made out for cash or a family member is pretty darn cool check to own.
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I think over 70 percent of autos are fake and thus I don't collect autos.
I think 90% of statistics are made up on the spot.
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I think over 70 percent of autos are fake and thus I don't collect autos. Don't like cuts either where folks ruin the entire piece he signed. If I was to collect an auto I would think owning an old bank check would be the best way to go. Made out for cash or a family member is pretty darn cool check to own.
This is why I stay away from autographs. There are people that say checks are the safe way to go. Then others say most checks are no good. It's not like blank checks are hard to get. A bunch of blank Ruth checks either just sold or are about to sell at auction.
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This is why I stay away from autographs. There are people that say checks are the safe way to go. Then others say most checks are no good. It's not like blank checks are hard to get. A bunch of blank Ruth checks either just sold or are about to sell at auction.
Well but then the check has to be canceled by the bank to substantiate its authenticity.
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Well but then the check has to be canceled by the bank to substantiate its authenticity.
I didn't realize punching a few holes and having a stamp made was that hard.
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Old 07-09-2019, 12:26 PM
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I didn't realize punching a few holes and having a stamp made was that hard.
I'm not sure forgers are creating multiple bank-related stamps after buying 100 year old blank checks just to create a fake $1300 check like the Cobb ones above. I mean that's a lot of effort for $1300, no?
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I'm not sure forgers are creating multiple bank-related stamps after buying 100 year old blank checks just to create a fake $1300 check like the Cobb ones above. I mean that's a lot of effort for $1300, no?
Maybe you make too much $ for it to be feasible to you. Seems like very little effort to me for $1300. People forge $3 autographs and alter $5 cards so why wouldn't they put in very little effort to get $1300.
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Every single item requires at least some leap of faith, that check is on the very low side of doubt for me for the simple reason of the amount of work/sophistication (finding blank Cobb checks is not easy) vs reward compared to forging a signed photo or baseball, or trimming a card, etc.

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I think 90% of statistics are made up on the spot.
OK that's funny. I love clever humor. Thank you.
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Fun questions: how many signatures does that check have? How many autographs? Would a card company that decided to cut it make it into three cut auto cards?
If they try to make three cut auto cards of Ty Cobb, then only two of them are real.

The signature on the back is Mrs. Cobb's, NOT Ty's.

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I'm not sure forgers are creating multiple bank-related stamps after buying 100 year old blank checks just to create a fake $1300 check like the Cobb ones above. I mean that's a lot of effort for $1300, no?
You dont do it just once. After stamps are made just go wild.
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Fun questions: how many signatures does that check have? How many autographs? Would a card company that decided to cut it make it into three cut auto cards?
I think they would just "splinter" it, like a Ruth bat shard card. Or cut swatches like a game-used prewar pair of pants. Someone gets a "T", another gets the "R". Some lucky bastid might get a "Co" or "bb". The unlucky ppl get the hole punches, or a "Mrs." but they would cherish them

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The signature on the back is Mrs. Cobb's, NOT Ty's.
Good point.
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If they try to make three cut auto cards of Ty Cobb, then only two of them are real.

The signature on the back is Mrs. Cobb's, NOT Ty's.

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Doesn't mean that it won't get authenticated by someone.
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I think 90% of statistics are made up on the spot.
100% of baseball statistics are made up on the spot.

"The spot" being a baseball field during a game.
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