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Posted By: Bob Lemke
I'm going to work up an FAQ presentation for the Standard Catalog of Baseball Cards (also to run in SCD). I invite you to ask any question you have about the book, general or specific. If you post your question here, I'll answer here, as well. If you wish to e-mail your query, you'll get a response in kind. Those questions which arise most frequently will be published in the book each year. For instance: |
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Posted By: Eric
Hello Mr. Lemke, |
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Posted By: Peter Thomas
Hi Bob: |
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Posted By: jay behrens
Actually, the logical seperation is 1945, otherwise you split the Bowman sets between vintage and modern. Also, WW2 is where the big change in cards occured. |
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Posted By: Hankron
Bob, your questions were good ones. Someone onced asked if I made up the questions for my newsletter and I said "No, just the answers." |
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Posted By: Hankron
6) Is it true that you caught a Beckett spy in Iola, with the giveaways that he was wearing spurs, chaps and refused to salute the Brett Favre SLU on your desk? |
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Posted By: warshawlaw
I would strongly second (third, whatever, I'm not good with stages) the idea of splitting the books so as to take the post-1980 stuff into a separate volume. I am very concerned about the comments that some of the card-like items might be removed from the vintage listings because of the proliferation of modern cards. In all honesty the big $$ and major focus of the hobby consistently is the pre-1980 collector, and I don't see why we should be penalized because of a refractor virus. |
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Posted By: Bob Lemke
Let me address these as best I can. |
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Posted By: Julie Vognar
1) It is much easier to prove the existance of a card than to prove the non-existance of one. |
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Posted By: Hankron
Bob, I'm assuming I will be getting paid, as you used my question ... To be frank, I wouldn't have posed the questions if I didn't think there was a good chance I'd get some dinero out of it. |
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Posted By: leon
I know there is a snowballs chance in he** but I too would like to see a vintage-only big book....say from even '81 and back?.....and would gladly pay the same price as the one today.....thanks |
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Posted By: Hankron
Oops, I appologize, Bob. A board member advised me that Wisconsin is not quite up to date on that currency thing. In leu of cash, I will accept barter. I will accept one milk-giving cow. Please note that it will have to be small, as it will live on the balcony of my second floor condominum. As I live in an urban area, the shipping papers will have to state that it's dog or cat. Lastly, please include instructions on how to milk it. |
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Posted By: Jeff O
Krause did do a vintage only book once... it was the "1887-1947 Baseball Card Price Guide" published in 1993, and it's basically a Standard Catalog for just the 1887-1947 era. Bob - how did this book do when it was released? I'm guessing not well, since it was never done again... hell, the only person I know who's even ever referred to it is TBob. Personally, I use it as often or more often than the annual guide - it's much smaller and easier to manage, and it uses the ACC designation system. |
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Posted By: Lee Behrens
If the ACC desigantions are out of date, does that mean TBob is out of date? |
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Posted By: Brian Weisner
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Posted By: Tom Boblitt
if you won't entertain the big pre-1981 book, how bout this for a compromise. I bet most people here would even pay MORE for the book/books if you went the Barry Halper Collection route and made a slipcover with 2-3 different volumes. You'd have to sell the WHOLE thing, but those who rue the new stuff would have at least two different books to work from. Maybe Pre 1980, Modern, and Minor League or some other division to make it 2-3 different volumes. |
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Posted By: brian p
I actually purchased that 1886-1947 Vintage SCD catalog when it came out, and it was one of the few things that riled me up enough to write a letter of complaint and return it. I had just purchased their normal Standard Catalog that year, and was excited to find out they were planning to issue just a vintage catalog for the cards I collected. The promise was that it would contain additional sets and have more in depth coverage. Boy was I disappointed. If I remember correctly, they added about 3-4 minor issues, but dropped about ten (I actually spent the time comparing the two catalogs with a fine tooth comb). I mailed them a detailed letter pointing all this out, and even spoke with someone on the phone when I was informing them of my return and disatisfaction. I believe the person on the phone mentioned that the editor of that catalog had lost his job because of it. Whoever was that editor (not Bob Lemke) was asleep at the wheel and even let through several pages of 70's cards, as well as a lot of errors that could have easily been spotted by a cursory run through. And besides this the pricing was all exactly the same as in their other guide. It really was just a slapped out rehash of the current Standard Catalog, and I felt like I had been taken for my money. |
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Posted By: warshawlaw
It is really hard to hold the big book while sitting on the toilet (aka the married man's reading room). |
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Posted By: runscott
Cut the book into two sections - vintage and modern - and leave the modern section on the back of the toilet for future use |
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Posted By: jay behrens
Since doing a permamnent breakdown of the book seems out of the question, is it possible to to do a vintage only edition every 5 years or so that would include all the smaller and newer vintage sets, and full listing of OJ variations that are not in the big book? Most vintage collectors seem to be more interested in having the checklists and info on the sets than the price guide. |
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Posted By: leon
I like your idea. Mr. Lemke, any chance of doing like the Halper catalogue and package it with 2 seperate books in a sleeve? Can't be that much more cost and I would easily pay a buck or two more for it that way.......great suggestion.......one other small thing.....E94 overprints at 25%-50% over a common? I sort of follow those very carefully and the last 20 (separate sales) have sold for 15x-20x book.... |
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Posted By: Bob Lemke
Thanks for the continuing dialog. |
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Posted By: jay behrens
The real question is, can Foamy still stand on her own? |
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Posted By: Julie
Now, or in the past. The E254 cards which Larry Fritsch, (the world's greatest collector of same--also 270s, both kinds) has undoubtedly told do not exist continue to be listed. They are in the E-270 Tin Top set, which looks exactly the same from the front. |
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Posted By: Brian H.
Some years ago the notorious Alan Hagar published a book. One of the things I found especially interesting (besides the copy-editing) and useful in that book was its attempts to determine the actual scarcity of vintage issues. I found this particularly useful as it adjusted my expectations about whether I could realistically ever obtain certain issues. |
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Posted By: Eric
Mr. Lemke~ |
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Posted By: runscott
but I would make the break after 1941 (last year for Play Ball and Goudey), which also fits the "pre-war" idea better. |
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Posted By: jay behrens
1945 is a better date because there are a number of small, lesser known set issued between 1942-1945 and fit better in pre-war section than they would the 1946-1980 section. |
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Posted By: Bob Lemke
Julie, and all, while Larry has mentioned to me on occasion that he feels there are problems with the Colgan's listings, we have never sat down to look into it. That day may or not ever come. Those listings derived from SOMEWHERE in the hobby's distant past and unless somebody has a good explanation of why this or that player could not/should not appear in one or the other of the E270 series, I can't justify taking unilateral action in de-listings. |
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Posted By: Nickinvegas
Bob, |
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Posted By: TBob
I am one of the guys who bought and loved the old Vintage 1887-1947 guide despite its being replete with mistakes. It was much more collector friendly with its grouping E sets, etc, together. Since everyone else is giving their bitches here, I'd thought I'd throw in mine- the current SCD prices for 1910 Obak Series 150 and E94 Overprint cards is way, way low compared to the sales I have seen and been involved in. |
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Posted By: brian p
I agree with tbob that the best and most collector friendly organization of vintage cards would be to have them grouped by the type of card. In my ideal version of this set up, the ACC numbers would not be utilized to organize the sets, except for the main classifications--i.e. the Early Candy cards (E) could all be listed together, the 19th century cards (N), etc. I would then alphabetize the listings within each grouping, and provide the ACC number (when it exists) within the description. An alphabetical and chronological index in the back (such as is seen in the current guides) should also be included as an aid for those unsure of the type of card they are looking for. |
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