Mistakes were made

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Posted By: PASJD

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=55917&item=5151971663&rd=1

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Posted By: DD

What grade does it get if the centering is better and there is no print line interfering with the team name on the bottom?

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Posted By: warshawlaw

but the card is a 6 o/c if I send it in...

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Posted By: DGT

...from the backdoor(Baker-Rocci)days.

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Posted By: Scott Elkins

the PSA 4 (MC) Croft's Cocoa Lajoie I bought from Tbob! And, to think, all these years I thought Tbob was in the "clique"!

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Posted By: MW

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Posted By: hankron

It's against this board's policy for someone to post anonymously when the poster is attacking someone else. That's been the stated rule for a long time.

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Posted By: dennis

i agree with warshawlaw who states
"now I am not saying that who the submitter is matters

but the card is a 6 o/c if I send it in" funny but true

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Posted By: PASJD

I don't think the card was graded as a "favor" for anyone, the centering is too obvious and it isn't that big a card, more likely they just made a mistake on the label and quality control failed to catch it. I didn't post to take a shot at PSA, I just thought it was good for a laugh.

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Posted By: warshawlaw

Let's call it a culture of favoritism. Why else would there be "authentic" trimmed PSA cards?

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Posted By: PASJD

I don't disagree that as a general matter certain dealers at least in times past were able to sometimes get better grades than the rest of us poor slobs, I think the best example of that was when PSA had a practice of onsite "reviews" where people could hand them cards and often got back cards in better slabs. I am just saying this Spahn is so egregious that I attribute it to a clerical error.

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Posted By: Bottom of the Ninth

PSA certainly has their share of mistakes floating around. Then again they have graded 7 million plus cards. The Spahn is quite funny.

Not sure any "inner circle" exists at PSA as it seems people who use them do so only because their product usually sells for more than their competitor's holders. Seems even the high volume dealers are disappointed with them these days.

Also anyone who wants to submit a card that is altered and have it placed in a holder deemed "Authentic" can do so as long as they have an account with PSA and the card they are submitting is genuine. PSA is no different than most businesses and professions; they will do anything for a buck. It is all about their bottom line.

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Posted By: Josh A

Are you guys saying that the Spahn is trimmed? If so, how can one tell? What are some of the warning signs of trimming? Besides scissor marks?!!

Thanks guys,
Josh

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Posted By: Judge Dred

Josh,

I believe that people are commenting on how off centered the card is and they are wondering how it could possibly be graded an 8. According to PSA standards the highest attainable grade for a card that is off centered more than 80/20 (on the front) is a "6", unless of course PSA places an OC (off center) qualifier on the label (which it didn't in this case).

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Posted By: tbob

you'll know I am not in any "clique." Ouch, SGC remains consistently brutal on caramel cards. The one redeeming feature is when I get a caramel card back with a 3 or 4, I am usually own one of the highest graded caramel cards of that player graded by SGC. I guess it's all relative (sigh).
Now that we know that PSA will grade cards "authentic" does anyone know if GAI is also doing this?

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Posted By: Andy Baran

I don't know if GAI is doing this on a regular basis, but they have been willing to do it for certain rare cards in the past. I had my trimmed Just So Tobacco Burkett slabbed as authentic by GAI (before I decided to break it out and have it restored), as well as my E107 Type 2 Lajoie (that I recently sold to a board member).

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Posted By: leon

I think PRO will grade "authentic". They might even just give you the slab to do it yourself......best regards

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Posted By: warshawlaw

quit your whining about the low grades SGC gives and do what I do: buy the cards in such $hitty condition to begin with that you are thrilled with a 30 If my new E92 Young fetches anything better than a "1" I am a happy camper and if it gets a "1" I am ok too since I am only into it for $250. I'd rather have a set of low grades at 10% of book than a single high grade at full freight.

BTW, got my 1st Neilson's today and it is really a lot nicer looking than I expected it to be, better than the equivalent E card because it is BW not sepia print.