Will you get vaccinated against COVID once it's available?

[G1911]

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[Leon]

Originally Posted by G1911

I am not referencing Net54 at all.

I live in the SF Bay Area, where even quietly going about your business without partaking is at best seen as highly problematic. The emotional investment in the narrative runs very deep. At the height people would literally call the cops if someone was taking a walk outdoors without a mask (even though this technically escaped most of the states mandates). I’ve seen just how loving and tolerant my caring neighbors are with anyone who disagrees with their key narratives. It’s gotten slightly better, but still difficult to go out anywhere without some throwing a profane tantrum.

Move to Texas.

I got my vaccine because of what I have read and seen. Statistically it is better to have one. To say otherwise seems to be contrary to the vast majority of health professionals opinions and research I have read. Ane at this point I am not wearing a mask where I am not required to. If people want to wear one, awesome, if they don't, awesome. I don't care any longer because anyone who wants a vaccine can get one. If they get Covid it's on them not me. And I am aware that the efficacy rate of the vaccines isn't 100% but it's 94%- 95%, so I am taking my chances. I am also aware we don't know of long term side effects. I still think the I made the right decision for me. To each their own.

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[G1911]

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[cardsagain74]

Originally Posted by G1911

At the height people would literally call the cops if someone was taking a walk outdoors without a mask (even though this technically escaped most of the states mandates).

That is so ridiculous, especially given that when you look at the reality of how COVID is usually passed: being in close quarters for at least 15 minutes with someone infected. Some health experts (real ones, not extreme political propaganda lunacy) have said as much, and it also makes sense realistically, as how many people claim that they probably got COVID from taking a jog in public without a mask? It's been pretty clear that situations like locker rooms, homes, packed spring break parties, etc seem to have been responsible for most of the spread.

But of course not many experts wanted to come out with such info since it's taboo in these spots to publicize anything but the most overly cautious advice.

So if someone called the cops on me for walking around w/o a mask in open areas that were far from back-to-back people, my problem wouldn't be the "muh rights" part, but the sheer idiocy of considering it a COVID issue

[jiw98]

I spent this past winter in the Orlando area of Florida. During my stay I did not hear of one person in the community I was in get COVID. I was socially active seven days a week playing golf, bocce ball, church, and going out to dinner. All of these activities included persons from outside of my family/ household. Masks were only worn to get into a restaurant, but not while we were seated. There were times where we would have as many as 8 couples in our group. We were from separate households, we all sat together, and nobody that I know of caught an illness of any kind.
My point here is, if you are ill, stay home. Hopefully this is something good that we will learn from all of what has happened during this difficult time. To many times people go out while being sick not thinking of the people you may come in contact with.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by jiw98

I spent this past winter in the Orlando area of Florida. During my stay I did not hear of one person in the community I was in get COVID. I was socially active seven days a week playing golf, bocce ball, church, and going out to dinner. All of these activities included persons from outside of my family/ household. Masks were only worn to get into a restaurant, but not while we were seated. There were times where we would have as many as 8 couples in our group. We were from separate households, we all sat together, and nobody that I know of caught an illness of any kind.
My point here is, if you are ill, stay home. Hopefully this is something good that we will learn from all of what has happened during this difficult time. To many times people go out while being sick not thinking of the people you may come in contact with.

Do you mean to seriously suggest people in Orlando were somehow exempt from the surge Florida saw this winter? Show me some statistics that confirm that. What you personally heard of really doesn't mean much. I do agree sick people should stay home, obviously.

[packs]

No offense to anyone but India is being ravaged right now. I think if it was so easy to avoid getting sick then they wouldn't be having the issues they are. Like I said earlier these stories kind of minimize what people have gone through.

[Republicaninmass]

Originally Posted by packs

No offense to anyone but India is being ravaged right now. I think if it was so easy to avoid getting sick then they wouldn't be having the issues they are. Like I said earlier these stories kind of minimize what people have gone through.

Culturally they do things much different than the US. Many of them need to shop for food each day, they live hand to mouth. Now they are forced to all go out at once between 6a and 10a. Life expectancy already 10 years younger than the US due to poor diet, etc, multi generations in the same house . Also, very poor health care system.


Riddle me this, India is 4x the size of the US, Cases are almost the same as US at 30 million, but deaths are 50% of US deaths despite all the other issues. Could 75% of the "deaths attributed to covid" probably be something else? I'm not say only 6% like the cdc commented that death certificates only said covid, but maybe closer to 12% died due to covid 19.

It's a shame anyone has to die, but without death, there cant be life.


That being said, at some point y'all will be forced to get the vaccine if you want to leave the house. If ya cant beat em you will have to join them or live in exile

[irv]

Originally Posted by Republicaninmass

Culturally they do things much different than the US. Many of them need to shop for food each day, they live hand to mouth. Now they are forced to all go out at once between 6a and 10a. Life expectancy already 10 years younger than the US due to poor diet, etc, multi generations in the same house . Also, very poor health care system.


Riddle me this, India is 4x the size of the US, Cases are almost the same as US at 30 million, but deaths are 50% of US deaths despite all the other issues. Could 75% of the "deaths attributed to covid" probably be something else? I'm not say only 6% like the cdc commented that death certificates only said covid, but maybe closer to 12% died due to covid 19.

It's a shame anyone has to die, but without death, there cant be life.


That being said, at some point y'all will be forced to get the vaccine if you want to leave the house. If ya cant beat em you will have to join them or live in exile

C'mon, Ted, everyone knows the PCR test is the most accurate test ever with zero chance of ever getting false positives, and despite of whatever else you might have died of, if you tested positive for covid, you died of covid and nothing else. Get with the program, man.

"Manitoba Chief Microbiologist and Laboratory Specialist: 56% of positive “cases” are not infectious

"PCR testing was invented to find genetic viral material in a sample and has not traditionally been used as the sole method for identifying people suffering from a viral or bacterial disease"
"Dr. Bullard testified that the most accurate way to determine whether someone is actually infectious with Covid is to attempt to grow a cell culture in the lab from a patient sample. If a cell culture will not grow the virus in the lab, a patient is likely not infectious. A study from Dr. Bullard and his colleagues found that only 44% of positive PCR test results would actually grow in the lab"
https://www.jccf.ca/manitoba-chief-m...7YnWc-PlDM2I18

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LBS9j7nHDsM

[jiw98]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Do you mean to seriously suggest people in Orlando were somehow exempt from the surge Florida saw this winter? Show me some statistics that confirm that. What you personally heard of really doesn't mean much. I do agree sick people should stay home, obviously.

Peter, I'm not saying that there were no cases in Orlando. What I am saying is that the people that I had direct contact with neither had COVID nor mentioned knowing of anyone in our community having COVID. Some of the people had started or completed their shots, some did not have any shots. There were people from different parts of the US and Canada in our community.
This was just my experience this past winter.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by jiw98

Peter, I'm not saying that there were no cases in Orlando. What I am saying is that the people that I had direct contact with neither had COVID nor mentioned knowing of anyone in our community having COVID. Some of the people had started or completed their shots, some did not have any shots. There were people from different parts of the US and Canada in our community.
This was just my experience this past winter.

Understood but that type of anecdote doesn't really mean much, respectfully. Thousands of people in my town had it per the Mayor's office but I never personally heard of any cases. I don't think it's something people broadcast.