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Old 03-13-2014, 10:44 AM
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Default T206 Dahlen HOF Price Impact - Seeking Opinions.

I asked this question in the T206 future HOFer thread, but it was quickly buried by all of the other discussion going on there. I'm looking for some opinions on what a HOF induction does to the market price of Dahlen T206 cards.

It looks very likely that Dahlen will get in, probably more a question of "when", not "if".

Being as his cards are already priced a a premium vs. your standard common, I'm wondering what members think.
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Old 03-13-2014, 12:01 PM
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Already Priced in. "Buy the rumor, sell the news." Everyone has been buying/hoarding thinking he will get in. The day he gets in, everyone will be selling which will be a good time to buy IMO.

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Old 03-13-2014, 06:32 PM
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I thought no more pre 1940 era players were going to be allowed into the hall of fame by the veterans comittee
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Old 03-14-2014, 10:30 AM
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^^^ Wrong. Three different Veteran's committees, covering three different time frames: 1) Pre-integration era, 2) Golden era, 3) Expansion era. They each vote every three years, on a rotating basis.

http://baseballhall.org/hall-famers/...re-integration
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Old 03-14-2014, 12:51 PM
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As I mentioned in the other thread, Dahlen will likely go in next December(2015).

He got 10 votes last time and three guys were elected in, while no one else on the ballot got more than three votes. He needed 12 votes(out of 16) to get in. The voters had a maximum of four votes, so while Ruppert, Deacon White and Hank O'Day got a total of 44 votes, that left a maximum of 20 votes for everyone else.

Ten of those 16 voters thought he was worthy, while there is a chance those other six were deciding between Dahlen and six other players for just one vote.

Another interesting player on the ballot was Tony Mullane. I think a few people are already holding on to his cards just in case he gets elected because the OJ prices take off. I have three of them and I can guarantee one will be on the market right away if he goes in.

Basically, if you have an extra Dahlen, it's worth holding on to just in case he makes it, but you'll want to move the card quickly because prices will jump up immediately, then settle down over time. There will be HOF collectors who want one right away
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Mullane was a fine pitcher, but I think the voters, if they think of him at all, think of him primarily as a terrible racist and secondly as a very good pitcher, so unless the character clause is thrown out I don't see him getting elected.

And yes I have heard of Ty Cobb.
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Dahlen and Mariano Rivera are not comparable. I get that you like the guy but come on.
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That's right, Rivera is an complete joke! As are all closers, but especially him because the media worships him.
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That's right, Rivera is an complete joke! As are all closers, but especially him because the media worships him.

I don't think you understand the modern game.
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You are however right about Jack Morris.
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I am always shocked by the sure fire hall of famers (Maddux) who don't go in unanimously.
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Statistics are a useful tool when used to compare players in any sport when comparing players of the same era. Once taken out of that context, statistical comparison of players is not useful and, in fact, can create a very distorted picture of a players value relative to the era in which he competed. Apples to apples.
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The media would love a guy like Cobb.
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Another interesting point to this conversation is looking at the evolution of equipment as well. WaJo and Matty were pitching to guys swinging broomsticks, not the Fred Flintstone barreled bats of today.
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Another interesting point to this conversation is looking at the evolution of equipment as well. WaJo and Matty were pitching to guys swinging broomsticks, not the Fred Flintstone barreled bats of today.

And gloves. It is tough to field with an early 20th century glove.
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Cobb would tear up these new pitchers.
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