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Old 01-20-2022, 07:09 PM
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Greenberg seems overly punished for the toning. Paige looks correct to me
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Old 01-20-2022, 10:06 PM
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Greenberg seems overly punished for the toning. Paige looks correct to me
It's a thought that the card was downgraded due to toning, but I never have even considered that idea. In hand, this card looks much brighter and much less toned than the scans show. So if the downgrade was due to toning, it's quite harsh, as you say, because there just isn't that much toning on it. The borders also appear much brighter in hand.
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Old 01-20-2022, 10:19 PM
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Still mystified by this one (of one).
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Old 01-21-2022, 04:37 AM
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Beautiful cards that don’t deserve the lowball grade. Would be nice if the graders could put a note about why they arrived at such a grade.
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Old 01-21-2022, 06:10 AM
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Great OG post idea! Please help me… why did Teddy get no love here? I just can’t find the flaws enough to grade this a 4. But I don’t have the eye that many of you do…

Good grade? Or did the grader just have a bad day??
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Old 01-21-2022, 06:14 AM
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I’ll take Ted if you’re ever interested! The t206 drum is really confusing. Hidden paper loss?
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Old 01-21-2022, 06:56 AM
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I’ll take Ted if you’re ever interested! The t206 drum is really confusing. Hidden paper loss?
Looks like a pinhole which I believe is automatically a 1.

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Old 01-21-2022, 06:14 AM
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Great OG post idea! Please help me… why did Teddy get no love here? I just can’t find the flaws enough to grade this a 4.
Normally a 4 would be a great looking card with a slight crease, even under magnification tilted under a light source. But your image is way too small to tell anything. You need to repost it at a hosting website and then link the URL, rather than upload the file to the board.
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Multiple horizontal creases

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Old 01-21-2022, 11:29 AM
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Multiple horizontal creases
I don't know about that. What are you seeing that I am not seeing?
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Old 01-21-2022, 11:36 AM
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I don't know about that. What are you seeing that I am not seeing?
I can't say for sure that they are wrinkles but that's what they look like and what I think Greg probably sees.

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Old 01-21-2022, 01:41 PM
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I can't say for sure that they are wrinkles but that's what they look like and what I think Greg probably sees.

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Probably light scratches there, except for the straight horizontal line across his face, which I think is a tiny print line.
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Old 01-21-2022, 03:51 PM
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As a variation hound, this PSA 4 card has bothered me forever. It looked like the best one I had (centering aside, obviously, which is a tiny bit better than it looks, because the plastic border is blocking a bit of the white), so it was the first one sent in for grading. The PSA 6 is included for comparison purposes...

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I still can't for the life of me understand how it got tossed into the VG pit!! That usually indicates a crease or wrinkle, but there is none. The only anomaly I can detect is a very tiny straight line 'indent' in the gloss (visible by tilting it in the light) that was undoubtedly just a part of the printing. Corners are epically sharp, back is fine, so I guess it's time to stop using my blacklight to illuminate my Hendrix posters and put it to work seeing if there's something somewhere that my human eye is unable to detect.
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Look at the left-to-right centering. I think that's what probably limited the grade because otherwise, I think it looks as good as or even better than the 6.
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Probably light scratches there, except for the straight horizontal line across his face, which I think is a tiny print line.
It's so hard to tell from a picture what is really going on, but it looks like there is another line going from Hank's right ear to the top of his lip. And there is a "W" on his right cheek.
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This one might be a grade or so low.....

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Old 01-21-2022, 04:16 PM
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I can't say for sure that they are wrinkles but that's what they look like and what I think Greg probably sees.

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Yes, I see multiple wrinkles as well. There might be another at the top border that runs down and through the D is his hat.
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