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Posted By: dennis
looking back,what was the last major set that you really think can still be called a classic issue.my vote 1975 topps. |
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Posted By: Anthony
Excluding the Heritage sets, which I think are incredible (with the exception of 2006/1957) the '84 Donruss set is the nicest of the era and will become a classic, iconic set. Prior to that, '67 Topps and possibly '65 Topps. |
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Posted By: peter chao
Anthony, |
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Posted By: dennis
"Also, this is the first time a card manufacturer's really became concerned with producing a high quality card." peter are you joking? also the rookie card fad had been going for quite awhile before the "84 donruss. but i will agree it is a nice design. |
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Posted By: peter chao
Dennis, |
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Posted By: dennis
peter you are wrong, the donruss set was not "high-tech". it was a regular old card set just like the '67 or '57 topps that utilized a simple un- cluttered look that collectors favor. there was no premium price. packs were priced comparable to the competion. the reason for the low production was because of the 3 years of over production by donruss and failure to sell off it's product that they (donruss) cut the production. it's popular design and the mattingly card made the set very popular w/collectors therefore driving up the price. in so far as mattingly starting the rookie fad that was already full blown by 1984. do you remember Joe Charboneau?? |
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Posted By: peter chao
Dennis, |
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Posted By: dennis
peter i'll agree with that. mattingly's stats were 1930ish. his early years he was very similiar to stan musial,imo. |
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Posted By: boxingcardman
FWIW, I don't think anything made after Topps stopped offering cards in series is truly great. To me, the last great set is the 1972 set. 1973 was shall we say drab and in 1974 the single series issue started. |
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Posted By: Rich Klein
We had a set a year in baseball that was the KEY set for the year (That was before the flood of product really hit big) -- |
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Posted By: Rich Klein
Duplicate Post -- don't know why that happenned |
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Posted By: Eric Brehm
I vote for 1969 Topps as the last great set. I think the quality of card designs gradually went south after that. |
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Posted By: howard
1972 Topps. |
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Posted By: Dave Williams
1971 Topps was a great set. Black borders, high numbers. |
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Posted By: MikeU
"'72 might be revered one day as well, due to it's design that is so indicative of the era- much like '34-36 Diamond Stars are indicative of the '30's art deco movement." |
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Posted By: Anthony
wow, Mike and I actually found common ground! |
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Posted By: boxingcardman
Heritage this year had good gum but it's packed all wrong. If it isn't up against the cards directly ruining at least one or two of them it just isn't right. Where is the fun in pulling a key star who isn't stuck to the gum? Or wax stained? I got one of those in every pack when I was a kid. |
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Posted By: Jason L
no one has really outlined what it takes to BE a classic set! |
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Posted By: Anthony
I think iconic design is the key to a set being considered classic. |
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Posted By: Darren
1989 upper deck. |
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Posted By: boxingcardman
I don't think it's been mentioned thus far. The first post-Bowman set, the last large-format set, and it had practically everyone in it (except Musial). |
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Posted By: peter chao
Adam, |
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Posted By: Paul S
Without knocking the Topps 56 set -- because there's a lot to like -- I'd have to say I always found the design a little bit cluttered. In a horizontal format I prefer the Topps 55, (although it lacks the players) which is kind of like their 54 in a horizontal format. Of course neither is on my list for this topic. |
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Posted By: MikeU
"wow, Mike and I actually found common ground!" |
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Posted By: MikeU
"1950s: 1952 Topps, 1953 Topps, 1953 Bowman Color, 1957 Topps |
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Posted By: Jason L
I agree with you from the standpoint of design and aesthetics regarding the 1968 Topps...but I felt obligated to include it because it felt more important because of its big rookies: Bench, Ryan, and 2nd cards of folks like Seaver and Carew... |
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Posted By: peter chao
Jason, |
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Posted By: Anthony
Have you checked the pop reports for '68 Topps? This is by far the easiest set of the '60's to find in high grade, due to a ton of vending. |
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Posted By: MikeU
"'68 Topps are hard to find in high grade, so I can see a high grade '68 set on your list." |
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Posted By: Jason L
as I had mentioned, I put it in my list of classic 1960s set because of the importance of some of the rookie and second year cards, and it still contains a Mantle, even though it is not my favorite design to look at and I am not a Mantle collector... |
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Posted By: Anthony
I wouldn't consider scarcity a factor in making something a classic. Design is the key factor. |
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Posted By: Jason L
should the 64 Topps be included among the 60s classics? |
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Posted By: peter chao
Jason, |
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Posted By: Paul S
Jason, I agree with you on the the reasons you like the '64 set design. |
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Posted By: peter chao
Paul S. |
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Posted By: Paul S
Peter, I think his card remains strong because he's the all-time hit leader. Also, Joe Jackson's Black Sox stuff certainly haven't been bad for his card prices. |
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Posted By: nbrazil
"BTW, has anybody beside me had a problem with the white part of the backs rub-off section fading over time?" |
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Posted By: MikeU
"Anothony, MikeU, would you guys say scarcity factors into what makes a classic set?" |
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Posted By: peter chao
Paul S., |
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Posted By: Dave Hornish
When I think classic set, I think "iconic." The only two that fit the bill IMHO are 52 and 72 Topps. There is not much more you can say about 52 and the 72 design, while not my favorite 70's set, pops up in a lot of paintings, drawings and other artistic endeavors in the real world. I forget his name but there is an artist who paints portraits of people that look very much like 72 Topps. |
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Posted By: peter chao
"Beautiful" and "iconic" are great words but in order to be a classic set the set also needs to be historically significant to the hobby. |
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Posted By: Dave Hornish
72's are the last Topps set issued in series (73's could be had all at once in some packs); that seems historical to me. I don't see it with 78's, which I consider part of a drab 76-80 run by Topps. |
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Posted By: Anonymous
Look at Barry, he's the all-time home run leader but his cards didn't go up much, but wait till he becomes a legend like Pete Rose or Shoeless Joe. You will see his cards go up. |
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Posted By: peter chao
Paul S., |
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Posted By: mark k. bowers
Whoa...what about post-war regionals which are typically more scarce and harder to find than any gum card. I will take my Homestead, 1948 Signal Oil, 1949 Pureta/Sunbeam, Centennial Flour, Bill and Bob's, Dormands, NY Journal American, SF Call Bulletin, Ford Tigers, Kahns, Expos pinbacks, Packard Bell, Bell Brand, Morrell Meats etc etc over any post-war gum card all day long. |
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Posted By: Paul S
Mark, on beauty alone I agree that you are right in that I would also prefer several regional sets -- Hires and Bell Brand to name only two -- over quite a few of the Topps. And often regionals have a higher concentration of stars, percentage-wise. However, I can't quite find enough reasons to bestow landmark quality, if we are applying most of the above criteria. |
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