Signed Rube Marquard T206

[slidekellyslide]

Picked this up at a local estate auction on Sunday. Anyone seen this exact card before? I have no idea when the last owner of this card may have acquired it. There were lots of other vintage cards at the sale, I picked up three other T206 cards (not signed) and some 50s-60s cards. He was clearly a collector. I'm just curious if this card is known to the hobby or if the last owner of it got it signed himself. Thanks for any help.

[frankbmd]

Can't comment on the Marquard auto, but I sure would like a copy of the Tasteless Trucker Tunes.

[slidekellyslide]

Originally Posted by frankbmd

Can't comment on the Marquard auto, but I sure would like a copy of the Tasteless Trucker Tunes.

Gotta love local auctions, that was actually in a flat full of older nonsport cards I bought.

[Bpm0014]

It's not particularly rare. Worth maybe $1000 give or take $200.

[slidekellyslide]

Yes, I know it’s not particularly rare, I’m just wondering if anyone has seen this exact card before. Thanks

[bigfanNY]

I had a signed Marquard earlier this year and looked at many other examples I don't recall seeing this exact one.
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[BillyCoxDodgers3B]

I don't remember seeing it. I thought it might have looked familiar, but then I noticed that crease. That would have stuck in my memory. Then again, I'm not on the prowl for these like so many others are. I do check them out in auctions just to see.

[rmarks]

I have the exact card signed. I sent it, along with another pose t206 and a t205, to Marquard, to sign in the early 1970s.

[Pat R]

Paul "T206 Collector" would probably know. He documents all of the signed T206's that he has seen or knows of and I believe he has images of most of them.

[T206Collector]

I do not have that specific example in my examples of signed T206 Marquard portrait poses. Having said that, I stopped cataloging new examples as carefully after 2018 -- which is when the forged T206 scandal broke -- so all that really means is that it hadn't surfaced in the hobby prior to 2018.

I think Dan's example is authentic, but I would note that it was done in the same style -- black marker/felt tip pen, somewhat sloppy, running up the right side of the card -- as the forged one that was outed on Net54 in 2018:



This would give me some pause before I purchased a similarly penned Marquard signature today. When I purchase autographs of Marquard lately, I look for "tight" examples in "confident" ballpoint or steel-tipped fountain pen:

[BillyCoxDodgers3B]

I have a career-era Marquard album page which I'd want a nice premium to part with as compared to something signed late in life.

Playing days Marquards are so rare they feel almost nonexistent. He retired in 1925, just shy of the first real autograph collecting boom which happened in the late 1920's-early 1930's. Furthermore, he just didn't seem to be as prolific a signer when he played, as there aren't as many surviving examples as compared to some other contemporaries.

Post-career examples that are still vintage (pre-1960's) are also not out there in numbers. Post-induction autographs can be used to wallpaper your den.

There are some collectors who appreciate the rarity and beauty of a career-era example and will pay the premium to own one. I don't blame anybody else for fishing around under the couch to unearth the eight cents to buy a 1970's cut!

Talk about incredibly different aspects of the same autograph!

Kinda funny, I still remember actually being excited when I bought my first Marquard and Coveleski 3X5s from Jack Smalling as a kid. They have somehow decreased in value since then! I still love them and those are a couple of items with sentimental value which I'm happy to hang on to. Also of note is that everything written above regarding Marquard's autograph can also be applied to Coveleski's.

[packs]

I believe the OP is asking if anyone has seen the card sell before without a signature. That is the fear, no? That this card might be one of the cards caught up in the fake signed T206 scandal from a few years ago?

[packs]

Double post

[slidekellyslide]

I hadn't thought of that Packs, but now that you mention it and the example of the forgery above has me a little worried, but I paid next to nothing for this card. Now I'm asking has anyone seen this particular autographed card for sale in the past or this particular card not autographed. lol

[T206Collector]

Originally Posted by BillyCoxDodgers3B

I have a career-era Marquard album page which I'd want a nice premium to part with as compared to something signed late in life.

That's exactly how I feel about my Larry Doyle signed Cubs check from 1917!