NHL players (post 1970) that do not belong in the hockey Hall Of Fame?

[shagrotn77]

I wouldn't have put any of these guys in:

Guy Lapointe
Bill Barber
Steve Shutt
Clark Gillies
Guy Carbonneau
Cam Neely

On the fence about Vaclav Nedomansky.

[Huysmans]

Originally Posted by shagrotn77

I wouldn't have put any of these guys in:

Guy Lapointe
Bill Barber
Steve Shutt
Clark Gillies
Guy Carbonneau
Cam Neely

On the fence about Vaclav Nedomansky.

Steve Shutt??

- selected 4th overall in 1972.
- scored over 800 points in 930 regular-season games.
- first left winger to score 60 goals in a season, and third highest season total for any left winger in history - even Bobby Hull never secured 60 goals in an NHL season.
- 15th all-time for career goals scored by a left winger.
- three-time All-Star with five Stanley Cup championships.

Additionally, he was noted for an exceptionally accurate and HARD shot. Don Cherry once said that "Gerry Cheevers was actually in terror of this guy".

Billy Smith went further, stating "He had a great shot. Unbelievable shot. He’d come across the blue line and he could tee it up better than anybody. And he was accurate, which is scary for someone with a slap shot"

Noted hockey author and historian Brian McFarlane also mentioned that Shutt had the fastest set of hands around the net during his time in the NHL, with an ability to corral the puck with his skates as well as protect it with his body and stick. (taken from online)

Bottom line, there are only six positions, and regarding offensive output, Shutt is ranked 15th for his position all-time. Do the math.... that would mean he ranks comparatively with the top 90 players or so that have ever played the game.

[xbaggypants]

Originally Posted by shagrotn77

I wouldn't have put any of these guys in:

Guy Lapointe
Bill Barber
Steve Shutt
Clark Gillies
Guy Carbonneau
Cam Neely

On the fence about Vaclav Nedomansky.

I had to check if these were actually HOFers. Definitely remove Barber, Gillies & Lapointe. Only reason any of them are there is because they played on good teams.

[Chuck9788]

Originally Posted by xbaggypants

I had to check if these were actually HOFers. Definitely remove Barber, Gillies & Lapointe. Only reason any of them are there is because they played on good teams.

I feel that there is more to hockey than just points.

Clark Gillies was a force for the Islanders championship teams and his presence was ALWAYS felt when he was on the ice.

[Throttlesteer]

Originally Posted by Chuck9788

I feel that there is more to hockey than just points.

Clark Gillies was a force for the Islanders championship teams and his presence was ALWAYS felt when he was on the ice.

Makes me wonder what a healthy Cam Neely would have done on that Islanders team. His stats over the 10 years he played were good (3x50 goal seasons). But, Vancouver and Boston weren't nearly the powerhouse the Islanders or Oilers were.

[xbaggypants]

Originally Posted by Throttlesteer

Makes me wonder what a healthy Cam Neely would have done on that Islanders team. His stats over the 10 years he played were good (3x50 goal seasons). But, Vancouver and Boston weren't nearly the powerhouse the Islanders or Oilers were.

Bruins were a powerhouse when Neely was there.

[Throttlesteer]

89-90 and 92-93 seasons were impressive. But I don't think you could compare the Bruins to the Islanders or Oilers talent-wise. He had Bourque and Oates for a few years. But the lineups lacked the same consistency, in addition to Cups.

[aro13]

Neely was in a pretty good situation for him. He had Craig Janney and than Adam Oates as his extremely pass first centers. He had Bourque on the Power Play and he got a lot of ice time. Yes, the Bruins lacked the depth of the Islanders and Oilers championship teams but they were still an elite team. Neely had to go against the top defensive lines and defensemen on the other teams all the time which is really the only drawback.