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Just when you thought it was safe...
Posted By: MW
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1986182046&category=31718 |
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Just when you thought it was safe...
Posted By: Julie Vognar
Any conjecture about what's inside the pack can go on in as many heads as want to busy themselves with it. |
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Just when you thought it was safe...
Posted By: MW
<< Item is exactly as described >> |
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Just when you thought it was safe...
Posted By: Hankron
As I don't know what is the factory designation on the pack I can't comment on the T206-rightousness of the pack. This is something the potential bidder would want to inquire about before bidding. |
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Just when you thought it was safe...
Posted By: RC_McKenzie
Was Wagner's card ever distributed in a pack? I thought he got an attorney to stop the presses?? Whatever is in there, I doubt it's "Gem Mint" |
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Just when you thought it was safe...
Posted By: Hankron
When was the shoehorn invented? |
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Posted By: Hankron
Naturally, I was making a joke. A shoehorn would totally wreck a cigarette pack. |
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Posted By: Hankron
To be serious for the moment: my guess (repeat: guess) is that the Wagners with Piedmont backs were not distributed in packs (the discussed pack on eBay is a Sweet Caporal so it's not relevent to that). I don't know whether or not some or all of the Wagners with Sweet Caporal back were sold in packs. I'm sure one of the many T206ophiles on board can provide a more definitive answer. |
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Posted By: Dwayne
Five maby six Wagners inserted in each pack in 1909...the odds are in your favor |
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Posted By: MW
Upon visiting GAI's Global Pack Authentication Website (www.gapack.net), one immediately encounters the following rhetoric: |
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Just when you thought it was safe...
Posted By: Hankron
I'm not going to grab a pitchfork and join the mob against GAI (I always root for Bela Lugosi, anyway), as I have absolutely no in-person experience with any of their products or services. If they fix or change for the future their labeling of packs, that's enough for me .... And Michael's last line was funny. |
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Just when you thought it was safe...
Posted By: Hankron
I correct myself, as I have had personal experience with GAI. I've bought autographs examined by GAI's Mike Gutierrez. Gutierrez' reputation follows him no matter where he works. Obviously, this isn't directly related to cards or packs, but felt it only fair to give due credit. |
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Just when you thought it was safe...
Posted By: Brian
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Just when you thought it was safe...
Posted By: hankron
Brian is correct that the info is available on the web. The tax stamp chart was used in my newsletter at least twice, and has been posted on my website for over a year. This isn't meant as a boast, because I didn't create the chart. I reprinted it with permission of the author (interestignly, an anti-smoking advocate who created the chart during his research), who had it on his website for at least an additional couple of years. Additionally, I've gleened additional essential tax stamp information from others, including Henry Moses and Leon and it was even discussed on the fullcountboard. In otherwords, the info is available to those who look or ask. |
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Posted By: Julie Vognar
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Posted By: Hankron
Julie, I don't think you have anything to be embarassed about. The only one who should feel foolish is GAI. I don't fault the ordinary seller or bidder either, as it is reasonable for him to assume a prominant grader is providing accurate information. |
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Just when you thought it was safe...
Posted By: Eric
I agree that the grading of this cigarette pack is misleading. As was mentioned, the 1909 tax stamp was issued between 1909 and 1917. Unless there is an overprinted date on the stamp, there's no way to tell when the pack was manufactured. I have empty Mecca and Hassan cigarette packs with the 1909 tax stamp but both stamps have overprinted dates. One pack has an overprinted date of April, 1911 while the other pack has an overprinted date of December, 1911. I also have a Nebo pack with all the cigarettes and redemption coupon still inside. This pack also has a 1909 tax stamp on it but an overprinted date of 1917 on the stamp. |
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