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Old 10-16-2005, 02:25 PM
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Default John "Rowdy Jack" Joseph "Peach Pie" O'Connor ??

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Although not too interesting a card, I thought it could bring up an interesting thread. A collector friend long ago "corrected" the team of O'Connor, c. He scratched out Pittsburg Nat'l and hand wrote "St. Louis Amer." on top border. Not familer with this player, I looked him up in the Baseball Encylopdea (1982 ed. !!!!!), thinking it might reflect a trade. I, however, found two O'Connor's (both catchers) playing during the e-90 period:

Paddy O'Connor, Pit. Nat. 1908-10
Jack O'Connor, StL. Am. 1904, 1906-07, 1910.

So a no-brainer, right?? Our e-90 is Paddy.

Now hold on ... Yes, Paddy did play for Pit., but he played in a WHOLE 27 games over those 3 years (ONLY 8 as a catcher). Hardly worthy of a baseball card.

Where as John "Rowdy Jack" Joseph "Peach Pie" O'Connor had a 21 year baseball career from 1887 (Cin AA) through 1910 (StL AL), sans 1905,08,09. He managed the 1910 team, and caught 1 game. In his career he played 1459 games, 863 as a catcher. Quite worthy of a baseball card.

So, I my very humble opinion, this e-90 is Rowdy Jack, although "technically" Paddy.

That's the lead-in, now the topic:
Rowdy Jack O'Connor has an Old Judge card (#354). If you can "agree in theory" that the e-90 is also Jack, then you have a player who had the honor of a card from the 1887 OJ hey-day and one from the 1909 e/t hey-day.

Even if you can't agree this e-90 is Jack:

>>>>> Is there any player known to have both an OJ AND a card from any 1909-11 T or E set ???

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