At least 14 Florida Marlins test + covid

[Shoeless Moe]

I've been coaching little league kids since end of May ZERO problems.

In Illinois Sunday 1 Covid death - a 90 year old man. No offense but 90!!!! Please.

Shut the world down, because someone dies from a disease.

PATHETIC!

Play ball!

Shut everything down until every person on Earth is safe. What a joke!

Oh no a few healthy 20 years olds tested Positive oh no Shut the season down. Everyone back to their basements.

IDIOTS!!!

[Fred]

2020

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dcmwPYCUysw

This whole year is pointless... feel free to pee in my Cheerios if you're offended by that.

What? Nobody enjoys it when the broadcast crew raises the volume on the cheering when the home team hits one over the fence or someone makes a great play?

That was the beauty of baseball - over a long season, things usually "even out" so to speak. IF it lasts 60 games, it'll be interesting to see how it all ends... I'd like nothing more than watching the San Francisco Giants battling it out with the the Kansas City Royals for the WS title.

[1952boyntoncollector]

interesting to see this thread with peoples opinions and than what really happened...haha

[BobbyStrawberry]

So now we're bumping years-old threads as an additional forum for anti-vax rants?

Perhaps Leon could do us all a favor and lock these COVID threads. Personally, I'd love to see the Watercooler section return to being a place of civility.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by BobbyStrawberry

So now we're bumping years-old threads as an additional forum for anti-vax rants?

Perhaps Leon could do us all a favor and lock these COVID threads. Personally, I'd love to see the Watercooler section return to being a place of civility.

I noticed that thread was active recently, but I resisted the normal reaction to look at it.

[BobbyStrawberry]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

I noticed that thread was active recently, but I resisted the normal reaction to look at it.

You are more disciplined than I am!

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by BobbyStrawberry

You are more disciplined than I am!

Or more sick of the content.

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by G1911

His last post in the other thread he wants locked down, like many of his posts in it, is a direct insult to another person lol. Not sure he has any leg to stand on, but with a hard narrative to defend, trying to get it locked is a good move. If you can't win, get it ended.

There are NO winners in these threads.

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

I noticed that thread was active recently, but I resisted the normal reaction to look at it.

I do my best at avoiding it but sometimes I can't resist.

[Snapolit1]

Another adult who thinks kids playing little league is the most important thing in the universe. A few in my family. As if you have any freakin idea if some kid in the leagues' 80 year old grand mother died from something she got at a family reunion from someone who got it from her grandson who got it at a little league game.

Originally Posted by Shoeless Moe

I've been coaching little league kids since end of May ZERO problems.

In Illinois Sunday 1 Covid death - a 90 year old man. No offense but 90!!!! Please.

Shut the world down, because someone dies from a disease.

PATHETIC!

Play ball!

Shut everything down until every person on Earth is safe. What a joke!

Oh no a few healthy 20 years olds tested Positive oh no Shut the season down. Everyone back to their basements.

IDIOTS!!!

[Shoeless Moe]

Originally Posted by Snapolit1

Another adult who thinks kids playing little league is the most important thing in the universe. A few in my family. As if you have any freakin idea if some kid in the leagues' 80 year old grand mother died from something she got at a family reunion from someone who got it from her grandson who got it at a little league game.

It's important kids play, it's important kids go to school.
Do u even have kids mouth?

[Shoeless Moe]

Each and every parent has thanked me and continues to thank me for getting their kids out and playing. None were forced to play. None however refused. Each one I asked said YES.

Grandma needs to stay home.

There are ways to beat this if you are smart, masks, social distance.

Over 2 months ZERO issues.

As for MLBs same thing, do it right and you will be fine. And they are young. They're fine. Keep playing and for those of you who don't like it, don't watch.

I'm in Chicago and lucky to have very good radio announcers, listen to the game on the radio if you don't like the visual of it. Just like the old days!!

You old sticks in the mud need to learn to adapt to a problem and make the best of a bad situation......or continue to moan like old ladies.

Can't wait for the playoffs!!!!!

[Shoeless Moe]

Or make it like the Hunger Games

F-ing out go the MARLINS.

or bring up their B team.

Anybody who thinks any of these 4 sports are going to go smoothly were mistaken. Issues will arise. Have a Plan B. Plan C. Adapt.

Don't throw in the towel at the first instance of adversity.

[tschock]

This is similar to the Koufax thread, but that is just human nature in general. There is no way to convince someone, using facts and logic, that something they believe might be wrong. Especially when compounded with a healthy and constant dose of fear pandering outside of any proper context.

[steve B]

Lucky you

Massachusetts is running around 2-300 new cases a day, and 10-20 deaths. We were about half that a month ago.

The people I know in the medical field also say that just because you don't die doesn't mean you aren't messed up, sometimes permanently.

By all means though, keep on not taking it seriously.

Originally Posted by Shoeless Moe

I've been coaching little league kids since end of May ZERO problems.

In Illinois Sunday 1 Covid death - a 90 year old man. No offense but 90!!!! Please.

Shut the world down, because someone dies from a disease.

PATHETIC!

Play ball!

Shut everything down until every person on Earth is safe. What a joke!

Oh no a few healthy 20 years olds tested Positive oh no Shut the season down. Everyone back to their basements.

IDIOTS!!!

[Shoeless Moe]

Originally Posted by steve B

Lucky you

Massachusetts is running around 2-300 new cases a day, and 10-20 deaths. We were about half that a month ago.

The people I know in the medical field also say that just because you don't die doesn't mean you aren't messed up, sometimes permanently.

By all means though, keep on not taking it seriously.

How am I not taking it seriously? I wear a mask, social distance, etc. What else do you need me to do that will make YOU happy? Stay in the house and not come out for a year or 2? Yah not gonna happen.

[Republicaninmass]

Originally Posted by Shoeless Moe

How am I not taking it seriously? I wear a mask, social distance, etc. What else do you need me to do that will make YOU happy? Stay in the house and not come out for a year or 2? Yah not gonna happen.

Yes so people.that have lived, traveled, worked, and maybe some whom haven't made healthy life decisions, can prevent children from being educated, traveling, and one day retiring.

[Cliff Bowman]

Originally Posted by Shoeless Moe

What else do you need me to do that will make YOU happy? Stay in the house and not come out for a year or 2? Yah not gonna happen.

Only through November 3, if things go their way that night then 90% of this will disappear overnight.

[Shoeless Moe]

Originally Posted by Cliff Bowman

Only through November 3, if things go their way that night then 90% of this will disappear overnight.

ahahaahahhaahahahaaha!!!!! The truth.

Poor CNN. Be careful what you wish for (CNN). They have no idea their ratings are going to sink like a stone if Trump loses. They will have nothing to talk about.

Fox too, if Trump is gone both will take a beating......both their ratings have surged this past year and the past four years because of him. Like him or not that's a fact.

At least Fox has the babes to tune back into. CNN by February, people will be like was it CMM or CN&N what was that station?

[RCMcKenzie]

I'm starting to think that there's an outside chance that it's not going away, like influenza. We will have to adapt. Robert

I'm really enjoying the baseball. It's kind of heroic.

[Shoeless Moe]

Exactly! Adapt.

Change is extremely difficult for old people and a little challenging for any age people.

You all need to pick up a book and read about the 1918 Virus that lasted 2 years. Eerily similar. No one took it serious, it spread, they shut it down, it came back in waves. Baseball continued the whole time.

And don't forget unlike today's FLU that preys on the old, the weak, the obese and those with conditions, in addition to the FLU back in 1918-20 (that killed healthy people mind you), they also were fighting a World War. And you guys want to cancel baseball because 7 Marlins got sick. Good god!

History repeats itself, not to a "T", but pretty damn close.

Ruth had influenza......recovered.

[SAllen2556]

I have no idea what the right thing to do is about all this, but I have noticed something that really gives me pause: I really believe there are many, many people who WANT this to be the new normal - by "this" I mean working at home, virtual school, limited socializing, etc.

And that makes me nervous. You cannot teach elementary school kids via a computer. You cannot learn proper social skills via a computer. You cannot grow a company via a computer.

There has to be an end date to all this. We were told to stay home to flatten the curve. The curve flattened and now the goal posts are constantly being moved back. What if this is like the chicken pox in that it's always around?

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by SAllen2556

I have no idea what the right thing to do is about all this, but I have noticed something that really gives me pause: I really believe there are many, many people who WANT this to be the new normal - by "this" I mean working at home, virtual school, limited socializing, etc.

And that makes me nervous. You cannot teach elementary school kids via a computer. You cannot learn proper social skills via a computer. You cannot grow a company via a computer.

There has to be an end date to all this. We were told to stay home to flatten the curve. The curve flattened and now the goal posts are constantly being moved back. What if this is like the chicken pox in that it's always around?

We live in a quick fix society, take a pill or shot and its over for whatever problem we want. Going to be new normal for some time, the virus mutates as well. Theres a reason One flu shot doesnt solve everything.

We drive cars yet people die every day doing it. However its worth the risk. As we learn more about Covid we are learning about the very low risks and new medications not vacinnes will also reduce the symptons and death rates.....

if a business want to open or a sport and its makes business sense, let them try.. who are we to tell someone that is trying to make an honest living not to try

people are educated as to what they want to buy........there will be sports outbreaks next year as well you will see, however wont be the same panic as yesterday..

again as i said yesterday, that will be considered the low point......and all this discussion of canceling the season after day 3 will be silly...

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by steve B

Lucky you

Massachusetts is running around 2-300 new cases a day, and 10-20 deaths. We were about half that a month ago.

The people I know in the medical field also say that just because you don't die doesn't mean you aren't messed up, sometimes permanently.

By all means though, keep on not taking it seriously.

My friend that works in a hospital says that if they find Covid 19 in a patient, they get up front money from the federal govt to pay, so if the patient comes in from a car accident, they test for covid and if positive they get the money and it counts towards the covid statistics even if the person dies from traumatic injuries from the car accident

the stats are skewed...yes one is too many but we cant prevent all death in everything....the increase in murders of under 35 year olds from this year to last as already exceeded the number of under 35 deaths to covid... i really think CNN and Fox etc should keep a toll of deaths from other causes they exceed last years numbers when they put up the covid deaths to keep everything in prospective

[D. Bergin]

Alright, I'm going to say this once, and then I'm going to go away. I'm not debating about freedom, or "right to work", or anti-vaccination nonsense, or any of the misguided nonsense going on in this thread or the other one in the Watercooler section.

For those who think this is a worldwide conspiracy against "The Grand Orange Poobah", you can kindly "Go F.... Yourselves".

I think it's really cute people are still comparing this to the flu. If you wanted to play that game back in February, when you could claim to be misguided by the Chinese or whoever the f***...........fine............if you are still doing it, you're the reason why we're devolving into a 3rd world country and the rest of the world is laughing at us, or concerned we're going to be a permanent hot spot they can never do business with again.

I have a sister who's stationed at an Air Force base in South Korea. She's seeing how they've handled it, and how we're handling it over here, and we're a literal laughing stock..........which I'm sure many in this country are obliviously proud of.

Firstly, my uncle contracted Covid back in March. Early 60's, strong as an ox, still golfs, swims and plays rec league basketball regularly. Hospitalized for three weeks. No ventilator, but was put in an oxygenated room, Covid still wrecked through his system, got sepsis of the liver, and 5 months later he still hasn't really completely recovered. He's had the flu before, this isn't the flu.

Lastly, my wife lost both of her parents to Covid, in a 3 week span between April and May. They were not on their deathbeds already when it took them. The flu takes people in 1st World Countires who are already (for the most part) on their deathbeds, Covid puts them there. They were not living in a nursing home. They were not in hospice. They were not convalescing. They were in their early to mid 70's at the time. They were exposed by somebody who had it and didn't know they had it, during a trip to the hospital for an unrelated issue.

My mother-in-law received a dose of Trump's "miracle drug", had a major cardiac event hours later, and died. Then her body was actually misplaced in a refrigerated truck because of the Covid backlog at the hospital and unable to be found for several days.

My father-in-law spent 3 weeks fighting on a ventilator before he passed. Much of it in agony and unable to communicate properly when he was awake. The medical bills that the family saw for the pair of them after they passed, that was submitted to the insurance companies, approached $1 Million bucks. If you think the pittance the government gives to hospitals for Covid cases, are grotesquely skewing the statistics in Covids favor........you don't know how hospitals work. Anecdotal bullsh*t does not skew statistics that badly.

The only person who could visit them while they were sick, was my sister-in-law, who just happened to be a medical professional at the hospital they were being treated at. My wife (a former medical professional herself), was sewing triple filtered masks for her sister and the hospital she was working for, as they couldn't restock in supplies fast enough at the time.

The dual memorial service for her parents was about 20 minutes long, in a cemetery, with less then 20 people in attendance and spread out over the grounds. Unbelievably, I still saw idiots show up to a goddamn Covid funeral without masks on. But hey, "Freedom".........amirite?

My wife was unable to tie up any emotional loose ends she had with her parents, before they passed.

CNN didn't tell me this, the portion of "the media", that involves fact checkers and non-opinion pieces that a lot of this country seems to hate, didn't tell me this, Dr. Anthony Fauci didn't tell me this.

I lived this with my wife, and she still lives with it today. She has to deal with supposed friends asking her about "underlying conditions" her parents had. She has to deal with the underlying rage that builds up when she sees store clerks without masks on in close proximity to other people, or even worse, people who enter a store she is in with a mask, to get past the front gates, and then proudly rip off their mask, the second they get past that first line of defense, and then sneer at her, like she's some "sheep", for keeping her mask on.

If you think these are "Acceptable Casualties" and consequences of this virus, on behalf of my wife I will happily say "F**k You!".

Sincerely, Me.









P.S. Not looking for condolences or sympathy.....just for people to open their eyes. If Leon wants to disappear this entire thread and the other one, I'm all for it. I see enough of this sh*t everywhere else already.

[timn1]

So sorry to hear about this, Dave.

Seems to me that the sheep are the ones among us who can’t deal with scientific facts because they are too inconvenient, so they get all their news from Twitter.

Leon, this thread probably should go too, or at least be locked.

Originally Posted by D. Bergin

Alright, I'm going to say this once, and then I'm going to go away. I'm not debating about freedom, or "right to work", or anti-vaccination nonsense, or any of the misguided nonsense going on in this thread or the other one in the Watercooler section.

For those who think this is a worldwide conspiracy against "The Grand Orange Poobah", you can kindly "Go F.... Yourselves".

I think it's really cute people are still comparing this to the flu. If you wanted to play that game back in February, when you could claim to be misguided by the Chinese or whoever the f***...........fine............if you are still doing it, you're the reason why we're devolving into a 3rd world country and the rest of the world is laughing at us, or concerned we're going to be a permanent hot spot they can never do business with again.

I have a sister who's stationed at an Air Force base in South Korea. She's seeing how they've handled it, and how we're handling it over here, and we're a literal laughing stock..........which I'm sure many in this country are obliviously proud of.

Firstly, my uncle contracted Covid back in March. Early 60's, strong as an ox, still golfs, swims and plays rec league basketball regularly. Hospitalized for three weeks. No ventilator, but was put in an oxygenated room, Covid still wrecked through his system, got sepsis of the liver, and 5 months later he still hasn't really completely recovered. He's had the flu before, this isn't the flu.

Lastly, my wife lost both of her parents to Covid, in a 3 week span between April and May. They were not on their deathbeds already when it took them. The flu takes people in 1st World Countires who are already (for the most part) on their deathbeds, Covid puts them there. They were not living in a nursing home. They were not in hospice. They were not convalescing. They were in their early to mid 70's at the time. They were exposed by somebody who had it and didn't know they had it, during a trip to the hospital for an unrelated issue.

My mother-in-law received a dose of Trump's "miracle drug", had a major cardiac event hours later, and died. Then her body was actually misplaced in a refrigerated truck because of the Covid backlog at the hospital and unable to be found for several days.

My father-in-law spent 3 weeks fighting on a ventilator before he passed. Much of it in agony and unable to communicate properly when he was awake. The medical bills that the family saw for the pair of them after they passed, that was submitted to the insurance companies, approached $1 Million bucks. If you think the pittance the government gives to hospitals for Covid cases, are grotesquely skewing the statistics in Covids favor........you don't know how hospitals work. Anecdotal bullsh*t does not skew statistics that badly.

The only person who could visit them while they were sick, was my sister-in-law, who just happened to be a medical professional at the hospital they were being treated at. My wife (a former medical professional herself), was sewing triple filtered masks for her sister and the hospital she was working for, as they couldn't restock in supplies fast enough at the time.

The dual memorial service for her parents was about 20 minutes long, in a cemetery, with less then 20 people in attendance and spread out over the grounds. Unbelievably, I still saw idiots show up to a goddamn Covid funeral without masks on. But hey, "Freedom".........amirite?

My wife was unable to tie up any emotional loose ends she had with her parents, before they passed.

CNN didn't tell me this, the portion of "the media", that involves fact checkers and non-opinion pieces that a lot of this country seems to hate, didn't tell me this, Dr. Anthony Fauci didn't tell me this.

I lived this with my wife, and she still lives with it today. She has to deal with supposed friends asking her about "underlying conditions" her parents had. She has to deal with the underlying rage that builds up when she sees store clerks without masks on in close proximity to other people, or even worse, people who enter a store she is in with a mask, to get past the front gates, and then proudly rip off their mask, the second they get past that first line of defense, and then sneer at her, like she's some "sheep", for keeping her mask on.

If you think these are "Acceptable Casualties" and consequences of this virus, on behalf of my wife I will happily say "F**k You!".

Sincerely, Me.









P.S. Not looking for condolences or sympathy.....just for people to open their eyes. If Leon wants to disappear this entire thread and the other one, I'm all for it. I see enough of this sh*t everywhere else already.

[tschock]

Originally Posted by timn1

Seems to me that the sheep are the ones among us who can’t deal with scientific facts because they are too inconvenient, so they get all their news from Twitter.

There have been quite a few salient points made here and other places regarding the response to the virus. There have also been some off the wall stuff (from various views) that doesn't add anything as well. I would suggest the hyperbole above would be among the latter.

For the record, there are quite a few "scientific facts" that aren't very scientific nor facts as presented to the public, starting with the usage of masks and face coverings. People do not use them as they are meant to be used. Are people disposing the paper masks once they take them off? Are they washing their cloth masks daily? Do they touch their face at any point once they have put the mask on?

The bottom line is the most effective way to stop the transmission of the virus is the same for most corona type virus. Wash your hands frequently and thoroughly and don't touch your face.

As to social distancing. Why is it 6 feet in the US and 1 meter in basically the rest of the world? There are also studies that show lock downs aren't effective in preventing the spread. There are many more examples for those that really care, though those that are firm in their beliefs will remain so regardless.

There are many of us that don't follow twitter, don't get our news off of facespace, don't listen to the talking heads, and don't read the newspapers. But we do our own research and critical thinking because we don't automatically trust everything being spoon fed to us, regardless of point of view.

[Corporal Lance Boil]

One of the things that I think is different about how we are experiencing this is our "instant gratification" society where we need answers and solutions to everything, immediately. I don't think we're going to have them anytime soon.

Last week I was talking to an Infectious Disease doctor, who is currently advising his governor and their re-opening Taskforce. He was adamant that schools should re-open in the fall and quoting numbers about transmission rates from children to adults. It's not my area of expertise, so I listened and learned.

I think that we are dealing with a very difficult task of weighing public health versus economic impact versus what we are now realizing is a very significant psychologic impact. All 3 have to be considered.

[timn1]

Today:

Florida reports new daily record of coronavirus deaths
The Florida Department of Health reported 186 new deaths due to COVID-19 on Tuesday.

Read in CBS News: https://apple.news/AA4Mp1onaSn66-zaNkL_dPw


Shared from Apple News


Ps. Taylor, I’m not saying you or many others who might have a range of opinions on issues are foolish sheep and only get their “news” from Trump’s tweets. But all too many people have convinced themselves that he can do no wrong and a lot of them seem willing to endanger others in order to make their point, regardless of anything that reputable medical science might have to say. Like the people refusing to wear masks in private businesses, claiming it’s their right.

Originally Posted by tschock

There have been quite a few salient points made here and other places regarding the response to the virus. There have also been some off the wall stuff (from various views) that doesn't add anything as well. I would suggest the hyperbole above would be among the latter.

For the record, there are quite a few "scientific facts" that aren't very scientific nor facts as presented to the public, starting with the usage of masks and face coverings. People do not use them as they are meant to be used. Are people disposing the paper masks once they take them off? Are they washing their cloth masks daily? Do they touch their face at any point once they have put the mask on?

The bottom line is the most effective way to stop the transmission of the virus is the same for most corona type virus. Wash your hands frequently and thoroughly and don't touch your face.

As to social distancing. Why is it 6 feet in the US and 1 meter in basically the rest of the world? There are also studies that show lock downs aren't effective in preventing the spread. There are many more examples for those that really care, though those that are firm in their beliefs will remain so regardless.

There are many of us that don't follow twitter, don't get our news off of facespace, don't listen to the talking heads, and don't read the newspapers. But we do our own research and critical thinking because we don't automatically trust everything being spoon fed to us, regardless of point of view.

[Den*nis O*Brien]

If you think these are "Acceptable Casualties" and consequences of this virus, on behalf of my wife I will happily say "F**k You!".

Sincerely, Me.


...The observations and sentiments that Dave has shared with us. He stated that he is not soliciting "Condolences & Sympathy" but his moving testimony is witness to the national horror that we are all faced with whether in touch with reality or oblivious to it. To those oblivious ones I urge them to have another drink of the orange Kool Aid and go out and lick a public hand rail or door knob since they are so very confidant in their position.....it certainly couldn't hurt. Even though unsolicited, my heart goes out to Dave and his family for this probably unnecessary tragedy. I think Dave's suggestion regarding the locking of this thread is a sound one. Leon....let's not give the gap tooth goobers a platform to spread ignorance. I will add that this is the very first "Pissing Match" that I have entered on this board and "The Old Board".
Sincerely, Dennis O'Brien





P.S. Not looking for condolences or sympathy.....just for people to open their eyes. If Leon wants to disappear this entire thread and the other one, I'm all for it. I see enough of this sh*t everywhere else already.[/QUOTE]

[BRoberts]

People post their opinion and then ask that the thread be locked.

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by BRoberts

People post their opinion and then ask that the thread be locked.

right, they say their side is right and now lock thread.....

[vintagetoppsguy]

Originally Posted by D. Bergin

My mother-in-law received a dose of Trump's "miracle drug"...

The "miracle drug" has been proven to be effective by many doctors that have come out publicly claiming to have great results with their patients. The latest one, Dr. Stella Immanuel, claims to have treated over 350 patients, many with underlying conditions, and hasn't lost one patient. But social media keeps shutting these doctors down. That's not a conspiracy theory, it's a fact. So why? These doctors have no motivation for sharing their results. Does it work on everybody? Probably not, but what drug does? Are there side effects? Sure, but what drug doesn't have possible side effects? And unfortunately heart problems are one. But if I'm diagnosed with the disease, you can bet I'm taking the "miracle drug" for a fast recovery.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=uYkIK6-TNok

https://www.henryford.com/news/2020/...eiZBwgkjBKpBt8

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.fre...amp/2955430001

[earlywynnfan]

Originally Posted by vintagetoppsguy

The "miracle drug" has been proven to be effective by many doctors that have come out publicly claiming to have great results with their patients. The latest one, Dr. Stella Immanuel, claims to have treated over 350 patients, many with underlying conditions, and hasn't lost one patient. But social media keeps shutting these doctors down. That's not a conspiracy theory, it's a fact. So why? These doctors have no motivation for sharing their results. Does it work on everybody? Probably not, but what drug does? Are there side effects? Sure, but what drug doesn't have possible side effects? And unfortunately heart problems are one. But if I'm diagnosed with the disease, you can bet I'm taking the "miracle drug" for a fast recovery.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=uYkIK6-TNok

https://www.henryford.com/news/2020/...eiZBwgkjBKpBt8

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.fre...amp/2955430001

Have you by chance read what else Dr. Stella has discussed? You know, the aliens and such? Would you take what Dr. Stella is selling without any proof of her claims? Do you believe Dr. Stella when she says masks are useless?

[timn1]

Now there’s an authority for all you guys who think world class expertise (like Tony Fauci) is hogwash.

Originally Posted by earlywynnfan

Have you by chance read what else Dr. Stella has discussed? You know, the aliens and such? Would you take what Dr. Stella is selling without any proof of her claims? Do you believe Dr. Stella when she says masks are useless?

[vintagetoppsguy]

Originally Posted by earlywynnfan

Have you by chance read what else Dr. Stella has discussed? You know, the aliens and such? Would you take what Dr. Stella is selling without any proof of her claims? Do you believe Dr. Stella when she says masks are useless?

I don't care what else she's discussed. How is that relevant to this discussion? Or are you just trying to derail my point?

What about the Henry Ford Health article?

What about the congresswoman?

Do you want more articles?

The "miracle drug" has proven to be effective whether you want to believe it or not. The truth is still the truth, even if no one believes it. A lie is still a lie, even if everyone believes it.

[steve B]

Originally Posted by 1952boyntoncollector

My friend that works in a hospital says that if they find Covid 19 in a patient, they get up front money from the federal govt to pay, so if the patient comes in from a car accident, they test for covid and if positive they get the money and it counts towards the covid statistics even if the person dies from traumatic injuries from the car accident

the stats are skewed...yes one is too many but we cant prevent all death in everything....the increase in murders of under 35 year olds from this year to last as already exceeded the number of under 35 deaths to covid... i really think CNN and Fox etc should keep a toll of deaths from other causes they exceed last years numbers when they put up the covid deaths to keep everything in prospective

The guy who runs the funeral home says he sees lots of cases where people "survive" but die a month or two later from damage it did to other organs.

If someone is younger, they may have lung damage that may not heal, heart problems, cognitive impairment, Chronic fatigue, Blood clots.
Most of these are also known side effects of other coronaviruses, like the version that causes SARS.

Big surprise that letting people out of prison raises all sorts of crimes. Who could have imagine that.....