Are their known counterfeits of the 1983 Mickey Mantle 52 Topps reprint?

[ALR-bishop]

Tiffany sets were issued 84 to 91 and sort of again in 2001-2002. The 52, 53 and 54 reprint and various Archives issues were a different line of product, right ?

My 52 reprint is a sealed blue box, but my 53 and 54 reprint sets were from packs

[HRBAKER]

IIRC I ordered my '52 Reprint set off of an ad in the PARADE Magazine in the Sunday paper. The sets are notorious for centering issues.

[JUrsaner]

Originally Posted by ALR-bishop

Tiffany sets were issued 84 to 91 and sort of again in 2001-2002. The 52, 53 and 54 reprint and various Archives issues were a different line of product, right ?

My 52 reprint is a sealed blue box, but my 53 and 54 reprint sets were from packs

The 1983 1952 reprint set is very different than the 1953 & 1954 Archive sets which came later. The blue box that it comes in was sealed with the same gold sticker like the other Tiffany sets; and I believe the boxes are serial numbered similarly, although not positive. The Tiffany line also overlaps with the Gallery of Champions sets and the Bronze/Pewter dealer premiums.

[ALR-bishop]

Right. I have the Tiffany sets and updates, 84-91 and the 2001/02. Also have the Immortals and Gallery sets, 84-91 in bronze, silver, and in later years aluminum. They come in nice boxed sets. Also the sealed 52 set and hand collated 53 and 54

The Gallery premiums were only pewter. I have those. There were bronze replicas of Topps cards in these years but were larger than the Galleries. Have those as well

By the way for some weird reason someone produced fake Gallery ingots that are pewter but do not match the premium subjects. I bought a couple as examples and provided them to Bob Lemke who actually listed them as fakes in the SCD Catalog at one time. He also listed another fake/counterfeit Topps product in the Catalog. Anyone know what it is ?

[JUrsaner]

There was also the 1983 Bronze Premium of Steve Carlton though which I assumed had to do with the start of the Tiffany line. Topps still seemed to be figuring it out for the first year or two with the 1983 1952 reprint set and Gallery of Immortals/Champions? Any idea of the production run for the reprint set?

https://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=281357

[ALR-bishop]

I do not know the number of 52 Reprint sets produced.

I have a 83 bronze Carlton. It and the subsequent bronze replicas were premiums to dealers for selling a given amount of Traded sets. They like the Immortal and Gallery issues are 1/4 size. Other bronze replicas I have, all listed in the SCD Standard Catalog for 2011, the last to list post 80 issues, are

84 Strawberry
85 Rose
86 Mantle( 52 design)
87 Mays ( 53 design)
88 Snyder ( 55)
89 J Robinson (52)
90 Aaron (54)
91 B Robinson (57)

[cardinalcollector]

Originally Posted by ALR-bishop

Right. I have the Tiffany sets and updates, 84-91 and the 2001/02. Also have the Immortals and Gallery sets, 84-91 in bronze, silver, and in later years aluminum. They come in nice boxed sets. Also the sealed 52 set and hand collated 53 and 54

The Gallery premiums were only pewter. I have those. There were bronze replicas of Topps cards in these years but were larger than the Galleries. Have those as well

By the way for some weird reason someone produced fake Gallery ingots that are pewter but do not match the premium subjects. I bought a couple as examples and provided them to Bob Lemke who actually listed them as fakes in the SCD Catalog at one time. He also listed another fake/counterfeit Topps product in the Catalog. Anyone know what it is ?

If I remember correctly, the paper cutouts of Topps cards from the massive book that showed 1/4 size Topps cards from all the Topps sets? Thru 1986 I think?

[ALR-bishop]

Got it Randy. Pictures were from Topps Surf books, affixed to blank cardboard with a stamp on back that said "Topps Promotional Sample". Lemke listed them in the 1961 Topps section in the 2011 Catalog. I bought one as an example off ebay. It was a 64 Aaron. I always felt listing things, even as fake or counterfeit, in a Catalog gave the item some value it would not otherwise have. On the other hand it might have saved some folks from a bad buy at the time

[Exhibitman]

When there were card shows I used to see the book cut fakes on occasion.

[toppcat]

Originally Posted by Exhibitman

When there were card shows I used to see the book cut fakes on occasion.

When Topps put out the big hardcover book with all their baseball cards, they used the reprint images for the 52's except for the five that never got reprinted originally. You can seen the difference quite easily.

http://www.thetoppsarchives.com/2012...escapades.html


Also, If memory serves, Topps advertised 35,000 sets were printed of the 1952 reprint. I may be wrong on that and thought I had a scan of the announcement (which I can't find right now) but that figure sticks in my head.