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T205 Set-Why no Plank and Wagner
Posted By: George L
I have read and heard many of the stories behind these two and their famed T206 cards, but why were neither in the T205 set. Anyone know? |
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T205 Set-Why no Plank and Wagner
Posted By: T206Collector
...reason they were short-printed in T206, which came first. Whatever led to them being pulled from T206 led to them not being on the later issued T205. |
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T205 Set-Why no Plank and Wagner
Posted By: Matt
There are other puzzling omissions from the T205 set - e.g. Lajoie. |
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T205 Set-Why no Plank and Wagner
Posted By: Frank Wakefield
I don't think the printing was ever completed as originally contemplated. |
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T205 Set-Why no Plank and Wagner
Posted By: Dave Hornish
ATC breakup would have to be factored into the truncated release of T205; it was clearly designed to be a stellar,flagship set. The T207's are more problematic as they seem to postdate the breakup. |
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T205 Set-Why no Plank and Wagner
Posted By: JimB
I think T206 Collector is correct. even if it is the case that the T205 production was truncated for some reason. Thus, Wagner did not want his image used to sell cigarettes that kids might pursue (documented in an issue of the Sporting News I believe from 1910). It is still unknown why Plank was sort of pulled, then included in the 350 series, then pulled again. Ted has an elaborate theory about this. Maybe somebody else can find the link where it was discussed. |
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T205 Set-Why no Plank and Wagner
Posted By: Mark L
Has new information surfaced that supports the theory that Wagner sought compensation for being included on tobacco cards? For as far as I know, every older source says that he did not want to lend his picture to set of cigarette cards that were being collected by children. |
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T205 Set-Why no Plank and Wagner
Posted By: Paul
Even though there may have been plans for 400 cards in the T205 set, it seems unlikely to me that they were holding stars back for a second series. Aside from Wagner and Plank, the only really big name missing was Lajoie. I can't explain why Lajoie is missing. But it seems pretty clear that they were trying to issue most or all of the stars in the first series. |
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T205 Set-Why no Plank and Wagner
Posted By: Ted Zanidakis
Here are the links to my theory regarding the T206 Plank card, that I posted here 2 years ago. |
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T205 Set-Why no Plank and Wagner
Posted By: J Levine
I do think that there was going to be a second series...as to Lajoie being the only star left out of the 1911 Series...nope... |
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T205 Set-Why no Plank and Wagner
Posted By: Paul
Not to be disagreeable, but I think most of those missing stars are easily explained: |
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T205 Set-Why no Plank and Wagner
Posted By: Frank Wakefield
Guys, read Ted's link. |
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T205 Set-Why no Plank and Wagner
Posted By: Matt
I was thinking about the "2nd series theory" but the fact that those players also don't have end panels in T202s would indicate they were left out for some reason other then a second series of T205s not being produced. |
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T205 Set-Why no Plank and Wagner
Posted By: Jason
As far as a second series goes. There would have been nothing stopping them from issuing variations of stars from the first set. |
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T205 Set-Why no Plank and Wagner
Posted By: Alan
Ted Z. is the greatest. |
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