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Old 04-15-2013, 06:50 PM
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Holy cow, if everyone still wants to blister REA for their T206s, please look at this card. This card looks like a 5, at best. But it is made to sound like a solid or high end 7.....Unbelievable, I wouldn't pay $300 for this card.......4 sharp corners?? Are you kidding me? Come on Brent.....

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Old 04-15-2013, 08:08 PM
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Beauty is in the eye of the beholder and for some collectors that little red and white slip of paper with the black letters and numbers is all the beauty they need to see.

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Old 04-15-2013, 08:12 PM
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Thanks Bubba, that card is an absolute joke at that grade. I have known Brent for over 15 years and bought many cards from him. This just does not make any sense to say 4 sharp corners. The card to me looks like a 5....

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Not the prettiest 7, that's for sure. But what do you expect the seller to do? It's probably a consignment. You want him to murder the card of a consignor? It could be over graded a grade or so, but he's doing his job.
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Old 04-16-2013, 06:17 AM
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The top edge of this card is way off. MC, at best...tough I am leaning towards trimmed.

Either way, PSA dropped the ball on this one.
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Looks a little over graded. Tilt does not mean its trimmed in fact it looks ok to me but I'd never say definitively without having in hand. A tilt is not an mc qualifier it's usually only used on encapsulated cards centered 100-0 or worse.

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Not the prettiest 7, that's for sure. But what do you expect the seller to do? It's probably a consignment. You want him to murder the card of a consignor? It could be over graded a grade or so, but he's doing his job.
No but he should not say four sharp corners.
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No but he should not say four sharp corners.
I can agree on that.
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Not the prettiest 7, that's for sure. But what do you expect the seller to do? It's probably a consignment. You want him to murder the card of a consignor? It could be over graded a grade or so, but he's doing his job.
The comment about the corners was the biggest concern I had...

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A tilt is not an mc qualifier it's usually only used on encapsulated cards centered 100-0 or worse.
Glyn,

The following italicized text is directly from PSA:

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Cards that exhibit an atypical cut for the issue or ones that contain partial portions of more than one card will be designated "MC."


I get the 100-0 or worse centering example which you provided above. Clearly, this particular example does not have that centering condition. However, it does seem to exhibit the "atypical cut" specified by PSA.

Unless I am missing something, the card has squared corners at the bottom and a slanted top edge. Since T206 cards are typically rectangular, this would seem "miscut" to me.

I am fairly new to Pre-War cards and T206, so please don't take this as a snarky comment. I really am trying to learn here.

The card in question is not a rectangular piece of cardboard with a misaligned print. Instead, the actual cardboard itself seems, in my eyes at least, to have been miscut and is not rectangular.



So, why would a T206 that was not rectangular not be considered MC?

Again, I am not aiming this at you. And I am not trying to be confrontational. I simply do not have enough experience with T206 and would like some help interpreting MC qualifiers here.

I welcome comments from everyone on this. Thanks, in advance, and have a great evening.

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Glyn,

The following italicized text is directly from PSA:

MC (Miscut):*
Cards that exhibit an atypical cut for the issue or ones that contain partial portions of more than one card will be designated "MC."


I get the 100-0 or worse centering example which you provided above. Clearly, this particular example does not have that centering condition. However, it does seem to exhibit the "atypical cut" specified by PSA.

Unless I am missing something, the card has squared corners at the bottom and a slanted top edge. Since T206 cards are typically rectangular, this would seem "miscut" to me.

I am fairly new to Pre-War cards and T206, so please don't take this as a snarky comment. I really am trying to learn here.

The card in question is not a rectangular piece of cardboard with a misaligned print. Instead, the actual cardboard itself seems, in my eyes at least, to have been miscut and is not rectangular.



So, why would a T206 that was not rectangular not be considered MC?

Again, I am not aiming this at you. And I am not trying to be confrontational. I simply do not have enough experience with T206 and would like some help interpreting MC qualifiers here.

I welcome comments from everyone on this. Thanks, in advance, and have a great evening.

Best Regards,

Eric.

Looking at this scan - It looks trimmed along the top edge. I do agree the description is misleading but you can use your own eyes and see that corners are not "sharp". I consider PSA, SGC and Beckett to be helpful authenticators when buying online and disregard the grade. If I can deal with the appearance for the price then I buy it. Honestly, I would be interested between $80 - $90 on the top end if I judged the cards value by only looking at the image.
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