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Old 03-03-2021, 04:03 PM
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Default '33 Goudey #144 ending on Ebay tonight

I was seriously considering bidding on a '33 Goudey Ruth 144 that ends on Ebay tonight. It has some adhesive marks in the corners but otherwise looks nice.

I just found an image on VCP of what appears to be the same card when it sold back on 3/30/17. That image shows a noticeable horizontal crease (?) across the middle of the card in the VCP image, but that crease is very difficult if not impossible to see in the Ebay listing. I will not be bidding due to my uncertainty over this crease. I certainly could be incorrect about these being the same card, and I am drawing no conclusions, but I thought that this may be useful information for others who might be considering whether or not to bid on the card.

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Definitely the same card.
Same cert number.
Crease is definitely present in the top one but there is no way I would have seen it without the other image. Does the description mention the crease?

Good job searching VCP, I always do the same looking for previous sales. They often show different lighting and more obvious issues.

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The VCP card also has a lot of light on it from the scanner so I'd guess the crease is less visible to the naked eye (probably somewhere between the two images).

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Old 03-03-2021, 04:38 PM
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Definitely the same card.
Same cert number.
Crease is definitely present in the top one but there is no way I would have seen it without the other image. Does the description mention the crease?
Unfortunately, there is no description of the card in the listing other than the information already seen on the holder label. Too often I see 4 & 5 figure cards with little or no description provided, which is really a shame and I believe short-changes the seller.

And I tend to agree with you, it is likely pretty tough to see this crease with the naked eye.
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Does the description mention the crease?
Sellers don’t describe anything anymore. If you won’t pay top dollar without one, someone else will.
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Nice heads up. I too was bidding on it, but once it got over 6k I lost interest. Plus, something seemed off. The SCG looks very badly cut.
[QUOTE=chadeast;2076330]I was seriously considering bidding on a '33 Goudey Ruth 144 that ends on Ebay tonight. It has some adhesive marks in the corners but otherwise looks nice.

I just found an image on VCP of what appears to be the same card when it sold back on 3/30/17. That image shows a noticeable horizontal crease (?) across the middle of the card in the VCP image, but that crease is very difficult if not impossible to see in the Ebay listing. I will not be bidding due to my uncertainty over this crease. I certainly could be incorrect about these being the same card, and I am drawing no conclusions, but I thought that this may be useful information for others who might be considering whether or not to bid on the card.

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Nice heads up. I too was bidding on it, but once it got over 6k I lost interest. Plus, something seemed off. The SCG looks very badly cut.
If you talking about the borders of the card, I think they are OK. Notice that the black insert itself seems to not be cut very symmetrically, giving the appearance that the right vertical edge in your photo is not even. If you look at just the card without the holder, I think it looks good. It's a nice example really, minus the adhesive in the corners, which is why I was seriously considering a higher bid.
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Old 03-03-2021, 09:17 PM
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Yeah, not the card. The insert for the slab.
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If you talking about the borders of the card, I think they are OK. Notice that the black insert itself seems to not be cut very symmetrically, giving the appearance that the right vertical edge in your photo is not even. If you look at just the card without the holder, I think it looks good. It's a nice example really, minus the adhesive in the corners, which is why I was seriously considering a higher bid.
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Sold for $9,000-+ shipping- with 30 day return.
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A PSA 1 sold for $7,700 or so last night as well.
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Sold for $9,000-+ shipping- with 30 day return.
Did we all sleep on Goudey Ruths? Wow. Great price.
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