Show...me...your print variations!

[Elberson]

Really thought I was done with 1967…….but decided to picked up 4 more cards

460 killebrew✅
480 mccovey ✅
485 McCarver ✅
531 7th series CL ✅

…..just for the fun of it….(and a complete 6th series set for maybe future 4th set)

I noticed the ink dots of black and green and had to have it……anybody see before?

[frankhardy]

For the love of crackers..... Someone PLEASE tell me that the 1959 Topps Bob Gibson print defect is NOT reoccurring.

Oh, it is not reoccurring? That's the only one in existence and it was just a fluke? What a relief! Thanks so much.

[G1911]

Here is a Cardinal that is less bad than Gibson! Ken Boyer in 1965 comes with or without a pink splotch (recurring) in the banner beneath the team logo and next to "C".

[G1911]

Also recurring, his World Series card #135 comes with a little red spot/squiggle/thing in the bottom border

[G1911]

And while I have the 65's out, McLain's rookie #236 comes with or without the red dot right below the team logo. Here's 2 copies of it.

[4reals]

1968 topps ferguson jenkins #410 - missing black ink in lower right corner. Reoccurring. Plenty available on ebay.





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[4reals]

1963 Topps Power Plus #242 - reoccurring- missing partial black border at top right.





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[wpeters]

I came across this in a recent lot I purchased. There is a white streak to the left of his cap.

[savedfrommyspokes]

Originally Posted by wpeters

I came across this in a recent lot I purchased. There is a white streak to the left of his cap.

Nice find, this white streak is recurring. Some where in this thread I posted my copy.

[Collectorsince62]

Last name missing on this 1958 Moe Drabowsky. It doesn't appear to be erased.

[Cliff Bowman]

Originally Posted by Collectorsince62

Last name missing on this 1958 Moe Drabowsky. It doesn't appear to be erased.

Nice find! See posts #1552 and #1553 for the other cards affected along with Drabowsky. https://www.net54baseball.com/showth...187722&page=32

[swarmee]

Recurring red print blob right above jersey number 32. 1958 Topps #428 Cincinnati Reds checklist. From the ones I could see on COMC, it is only on the Alphabetical checklist back. Not sure about that, though.

[Elberson]

Sorting my 1966 Topps set……I notice two tri color, maybe faded backs…

[butchie_t]

Looks like the effects of sun fade on the card to the right

[Flange]

I have a 1960 Willie Mays with a Dick Ricketts back. Will post picture later.

[swarmee]

Card 103 in the 1967 set, the Mickey Mantle checklist has two standard variations. 170 is D. McAuliffe or D| McAuliffe (where the period is a streak), which PSA lists as the "D McAuliffe" variant.

Here's one PSA graded as an 8 (so should not have any surface damage) that has neither the period or the streak. Is this a valid third recurring print variation, or just a one-off?

If so, I guess PSA would label it "No period or streak" if they were to verify it again. I think the grader didn't even realize the period was supposed to be a streak on this card, because the variation type is inaccurate/vague in PSA's database.

[Cliff Bowman]

Originally Posted by Flange

I have a 1960 Willie Mays with a Dick Ricketts back. Will post picture later.

They are in the same Series, I am guessing the Ricketts back is upside down and off center. That would mean the back of the sheet was printed upside down from the front.

[Sliphorn]

This is not inline with this thread, but I wonder about this and hope someone can answer it.

In the beginning days of the AFL, Fleer issued 132 cards of AFL players only in the inaugural year of 1960. They issued 88 cards in 1962 and 1963 before ending their contributions. In 1961 BOTH Topps and Fleer put out cards with the first 2/3 of the sets being NFL and the last 1/3 being AFL players. Why did this happen and why did they stop doing it the next year? I know Fleer had 220 cards and think Topps had about the same more-than-normal amount of cards as well. Were there legalities involved? I know in 1959 Fleer only issued th eTed Williams set and then in 1960 and 1961 issued stars from the past, to avoid issues with Topps, I assume. IN 1963 they did issue 66 current players but put cookies in the wrappers instead of gum.

Inquiring minds want to know. Thanks.

[swarmee]

Originally Posted by Sliphorn

This is not inline with this thread, but I wonder about this and hope someone can answer it.

Post it in the football section. No reason to waste space in this thread.

[wpeters]

Here are some various miscuts from a recent purchase. The 1971 checklist is my favorite.

[4reals]

1972 Topps Young Willie Stargell #343
Copyright symbol missing along with partial T.C.G. missing.





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[butchie_t]

Did a quick check. Pop’s is gonna be a bit of a hard find.

[4reals]

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1972 Topps Al Oliver #575





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[ALR-bishop]

Originally Posted by swarmee

Post it in the football section. No reason to waste space in this thread.

Just want to say that Tom, like John, has over the years made a lot of great contributions to this baseball thread.... and to this important variations effort that includes baseball, football and basketball

http://baseballcardvariationsguidebo...wordpress.com/

[swarmee]

Maybe I was too brusque, but I figured the right person to answer wouldn't really be reading the back end of this thread, or whoever may try to find the answer in the future would be looking in the proper section.

And a recurring variation (bottom right corners has missing border and green squares):

1953 Bowman Color - [Base] #25 - Hoot Evers
Courtesy of COMC.com

[Sliphorn]

Notice the issues with these. I am assuming thesis OK to post since it is baseball (?).

[G1911]

I’m looking for excuses to keep hunting for 50’s Bowman commons, so this is fantastic

[ALR-bishop]

Darn John. I have the green box version in my set but never noticed it. Now I need a 'regular" one

[savedfrommyspokes]

Originally Posted by Sliphorn

Notice the issues with these. I am assuming thesis OK to post since it is baseball (?).

Thanks for sharing these Thomas.

[4reals]

1963 Topps Don Leppert #243. Vertical magenta line at right border. Somr have it, some don’t.





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[4reals]

Every 1963 Tony Stallard #419 has a red square in the upper left corner. At least every one that I’ve seen. If one without exists and you own it I would go out on a limb and say it’s scarce.




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[4reals]

1964 Topps #16 John Boozer “snot rocket” variant




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[butchie_t]

Hahaha, looks like he is blowing a booger bubble.

[ALR-bishop]

Couple of follow ups to prior posts

[Elberson]

Ok, sorting my 1965 Topps and found an over inked 431 cardinals RC.

[Cliff Bowman]

Originally Posted by Elberson

Ok, sorting my 1965 Topps and found an over inked 431 cardinals RC.

The few I have seen over the years on eBay were much more severe where the black ink completely covered Briles’ name, I think yours would be a transitional error. Unfortunately I was never able to pick one up, Al probably has one. ETA: found this scan from WorthPoint.

[frankhardy]

CRUD MUFFINS! Another Cardinals variation!

[G1911]

1953 Bowman (Color) #9 Phil Rizzuto. Rizzuto comes with or without a blue dash in the upper left border. It appears that it is not on all cards, even those with a large top border can come without it. Both versions appear to me to be easy to find.

Discovered this one when I bought a copy at a local show to replace my current copy that has tape stains and doesn't fit into my raw stack well. Instead I discovered a variant and that I need to upgrade and replace my copy again.

This example to show it is less ugly than my copy.

[Elberson]

1965 Topps American League RBI leaders # 5 with mantle……yellow smear?

[JollyElm]

Was able to land a really nice PSA 9 1972 Topps #607 Frank Duffy 'yellow letter' variation (card on the right), and realized there seems to generally be three, not two, versions of the card.

The one on left is the full green version, but between it and the 'fully' yellow version, there is a bit of a hybrid example, where the letter bottom green is lighter, but intact, and the upper green portions on the inside of the letters are almost completely gone...

1972duffy607greenyellowvarprogression.jpg

I assume this is due to a 'weakening' of the cyan ink, because you can see how (most notably) the sky moves from dark blue to much lighter blue across the three versions.

[savedfrommyspokes]

Green/red upper lip...not sure what he ate before the photo shoot.

[Sliphorn]

This one is eerily similar to the 1957's.

[Sliphorn]

Here are four really wild overprinted backs from one of my favorite sets.

[Sliphorn]

Here are four missing ink card backs to rival the Bakep one. I never understand why Bakep commands such interest and high prices. There were all commons less than $10, except maybe Ford.

[Elberson]

Back leak? I just found another on eBay so I guess reoccurring?

[swarmee]

1969 Topps - [Base] #582.1 - High # - 7th Series (Tony Oliva) (White Circle on Back)
Courtesy of COMC.com

Line break in the circle containing the card number. Recurring print defect.

[Lucas00]

'61 Post Red.

Extreme difference in quality and color with this card. No premium for either.

You can get a perfect registration Blue bgrnd.

Or a gray slightly out of focus one.

[ALR-bishop]

The Bakep like the Herrer just got early hobby recognition before eBay and seller/dealer scans showed how many cards have similar scarce recurring defects. Ongoing recognition by grading companies make them must have’s for master collectors.

For a time Lemke included some border break cards in the SCD Catalog as variations until it became obvious that such defects were commonplace

A bigger mystery to me was PSA’s much more recent recognition of the 61 Fairly with the green smudge in the baseball on the back, a defect that shows up on several other 61 cards

Someone needs to be appointed The Hobby Commissioner of Variations to get control of these things. I nominate you Thomas

[G1911]

Originally Posted by Lucas00

'61 Post Red.

Extreme difference in quality and color with this card. No premium for either.

You can get a perfect registration Blue bgrnd.

Or a gray slightly out of focus one.

I've given up on them all, but most 1961 Posts can be found with this like with widely varying color differences in the images that seem to relate to different productions and not just differing levels of ink at the moment a particular sheet was ran.