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Old 06-22-2009, 09:17 AM
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Default Carolina Brights Ad - Let's See Some Carolina Brights Cards

Recently I came across this huge half-page ad in the Richmond Times-Dispatch (July 9, 1905) for Carolina Brights Cigarettes. It predates the T206 release by several years, but I thought it was cool nonetheless.



A couple things:
The Wells-Whitehead Company was acquired by the American Tobacco Company in 1903, but the change in control was kept concealed from the public. Obviously that had changed by 1910, when the manufacture of Carolina Brights cigarettes had been shifted from Wilson, NC, to the ATC’s factory in Richmond (Factory No. 25) and the brand was included in their T206 release. So this ad demonstrates one of the ATC’s favorite anti-competitive practices: the policy of disguising ownership and using smaller, controlled companies to secure for themselves the benefit of public sentiment against the Trust. The kicker here is the highlighting of union labor being used; the ATC itself was notoriously anti-union, and in response many labor unions organized boycotts of their products and/or sought to support the business of independent companies.

The Hancock Cigar Company was a Richmond wholesaler. I found also a small column on them from a week earlier in the same newspaper. It’s clear from the ad and the column that Carolina Brights was being targeted to Richmond, to Virginia, and to the Southeast region. Not sure if that geographic distribution persisted until 1910, but kind of interesting nonetheless.



Anyway, let’s see some T206 Carolina Bright cards.
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Old 06-22-2009, 09:33 AM
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This should be a fun thread. Here's the only one I have; picked it up a while ago off the BST.

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T206 Dark Cap (Carolina Brights)
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Old 06-22-2009, 09:54 AM
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Default a few other pieces

I have only 1 Carolina Brights back and the scan is in with a lot of others....here are a few envelopes though....a little bit pre-dating the cards but still neat....
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Default Carolina Brights

JAMIE

Great stuff....here are my last two CB's....Chase and Clymer.


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Thanks for sharing this adv. with us.

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ok... here's the requisite red cobb:


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Snagged this on BST a while back, still one of my favorites:

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These are great! Ted or someone else who knows, how many cards were produced with the CB back? 350? 460?
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Hi guys,
Here are a few Fronts.... as the backs are all the same....










Be well Brian

I have 50 different fronts with CB backs, but I don't want to hog the thread.







PS Hi Leon, I have a letter to Mr Scott too...

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Hi Jim,
Thanks.... Your Bender is nicer than mine......


Be well Brian




PS Jamie, That ad is awesome.... talk to you soon...

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Default My only Carolina Brights back...

Someone already posted their Collins Carolina Bright back, but since this is the only one I own I'll post it anyways.

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JIM,

WOW!!Emil Batch is sick, upside down top of the sheet!!! awesome card!!!

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i know this is a cb thread, but i couldn't resist
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Default Carolina Brights Ad - Let's See Some Carolina Brights Cards

Those cards are tough to follow, but here are my Carolina Brights....and the perfect set-up for a quick joke!

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Default Carolina Brights

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Consider this......T206's with Carolina Brights backs would not be so elusive if that boxcar with 3 Million
cigarettes in it (300,000 packs) were shipped in 1910....instead of 1905. Did this T-brand lose it's popu-
larity by 1910 ?


SETH B

Earlier you asked how many T206 subjects are found with the CB back ?

The Carolina Brights cards were printed only in the 350 Series; therefore, 214 candidates are possible.
By the latest count....123 of the 214 have been confirmed.


Brian W. may have a more accurate account of the CB cards.

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Default Carolina Chance

Here is my Carolina Brights.
I would love to see the Eddie Collins if anyone has the pic, or happens to know the owner!!!
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Hi Ted.

No kidding, Carolina Brights would probably rival Piedmont for commonness in T206 cards. It’s always possible that Carolina Brights was just as popular in 1910 as it had been in 1905, and that the reason CB backs are tough is because ATC just didn’t include T206s with them for that long a period of time. But I think if that were the case, we’d see as many empty Carolina Brights cigarette packs floating around as we see Piedmont ones, and we clearly do not. So I think CB must have faded somewhat by 1910.

The prevalence of Piedmont might actually support that. I suspect the two brands of cigarettes were actually very similar products. In doing some research, there’s evidence that in the early 1900s the ATC used Piedmont as their “fighting brand” against Carolina Brights to try to run Wells-Whitehead out of business. They sold Piedmonts at cut-rate prices and included coupon schemes to try to get smokers to switch from Carolina Brights. Later, of course, they just bought Wells-Whitehead out. By 1910, that section of the smoking public that liked North Carolina bright leaf tobacco cigarettes might have moved on from Carolina Brights to Piedmont, or maybe slowly been pushed there by ATC.
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I know you are aware of the following....but, for those who aren't......

There is no doubt about it that PIEDMONT was ATC's "flagship" brand. This was certainly evident during the production of the T206's.
As we all very well know, across the various series, PIEDMONT cards were printed in much greater numbers than any of the 15 other
brands.
Furthermore, the first T206's off the presses were the PIEDMONT cards.

Most AMERICAN BEAUTY, BROAD LEAF, CAROLINA BRIGHTS, CYCLE, DRUM, most PIEDMONT, SOVEREIGN, and many SWEET CAPORAL
cigarettes are all from Factory 25 (Richmond, VA). However, this does imply that all these brands were distributed only in the South.

The following original T206 recent finds have indicated otherwise......

DRUM......St Louis
SOVEREIGN #1.....Erie, PA
SOVEREIGN #2.....Connecticut
SOVEREIGN #3.....Upstate New York



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don has been inactive for some time due to his mobilization from the pentagon to mosul. god bless him and thanks for this nice pickup!
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