The Mets - Same crap as the last crap

[mrreality68]

The Mets and San Diego both are not doing well this year. Both have spent alot of money and both on paper look like they should be competitive.

Injuries play a factor as they do for all teams so that should be taken out of the equation.

I think the owners need to really take a long look at their organization and see where the opportunities are.

GM? Manager? Coaches? Scouting? etc.

And many say trade certain players. Well another team would need or want them and what can you get back.

It is hard to watch either team but the Mets are the hardest to watch and their line up is the least scariest in the game today

[tod41]

Originally Posted by mrreality68

The Mets and San Diego both are not doing well this year. Both have spent alot of money and both on paper look like they should be competitive.

Injuries play a factor as they do for all teams so that should be taken out of the equation.

I think the owners need to really take a long look at their organization and see where the opportunities are.

GM? Manager? Coaches? Scouting? etc.

And many say trade certain players. Well another team would need or want them and what can you get back.

It is hard to watch either team but the Mets are the hardest to watch and their line up is the least scariest in the game today

It starts and ends with Lindor and his massive contract. You can't have a 230 hitter batting third and expect to have a great lineup. Lindor can't hit elite or even good pitching, especially left handed. The Mets analytics department did a poor job in evaluating Lindor long term. Lindor feasted on the poor teams in the AL Central which made his numbers misleading.

[mrreality68]

Originally Posted by tod41

It starts and ends with Lindor and his massive contract. You can't have a 230 hitter batting third and expect to have a great lineup. Lindor can't hit elite or even good pitching, especially left handed. The Mets analytics department did a poor job in evaluating Lindor long term. Lindor feasted on the poor teams in the AL Central which made his numbers misleading.

I do not disagree his contract is an issue but their payroll can absorb it. They have to many other contracts are no good also and they should not have thrown that money around. But at the end of the day no one is living up to their contracts or their potential.
They also have no real DH, no depth, and to many players trending towards the down side of their careers.

[Snapolit1]

Biggest problem on the team is a guy with 50 rbi and 14 HR in June? Not the non existent starting pitching and pathetic middle relief and bullpen missing an all star? Who cares what his salary is. Doesn’t matter to Cohen.



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Originally Posted by tod41

It starts and ends with Lindor and his massive contract. You can't have a 230 hitter batting third and expect to have a great lineup. Lindor can't hit elite or even good pitching, especially left handed. The Mets analytics department did a poor job in evaluating Lindor long term. Lindor feasted on the poor teams in the AL Central which made his numbers misleading.

[Carter08]

Originally Posted by Snapolit1

Biggest problem on the team is a guy with 50 rbi and 14 HR in June? Not the non existent starting pitching and pathetic middle relief and bullpen missing an all star? Who cares what his salary is. Doesn’t matter to Cohen.



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Steve knows this about me but I couldn’t agree more on the many knocks against Lindor. Scary that we have him for his late career years too.

[D. Bergin]

I’d gladly give Giancarlo Stanton and Josh Donaldson on Tuesday, for a Francisco Lindor and a Hamburger today.

[D. Bergin]

Originally Posted by D. Bergin

I’d gladly give Giancarlo Stanton and Josh Donaldson on Tuesday, for a Francisco Lindor and a Hamburger today.

Ahhh, nevermind. How about just the Hamburger?

[Casey2296]

Don't look now, but the SF Giants no name squad with a payroll of less than 1/2 of what the Mets are paying have spun off 9 straight wins and have the 4th best record in the NL.

Still early yet but they are fun to watch.

And only 13 more years to go until the Mets stop paying Bobby Bonilla...

[mrreality68]

Originally Posted by D. Bergin

I’d gladly give Giancarlo Stanton and Josh Donaldson on Tuesday, for a Francisco Lindor and a Hamburger today.

I actually like Lindor and he is not worth his contract. But he stays healthy and plays. His average sucks but he is relatively steady (not spectacular) and he does plays a good position and does put up some good numbers. AGAIN NOT WORTH his contract but that is what he judge him against and WE should. the money the Mets can live with.
The contract will really suck in the later years but

You can keep Stanton and Donaldson. They have health and performance issues.

and 1 Player is not destroying the Mets it is the way the entire team is contracted, the flaws in the roster, and the overall terrible way they are playing. IF lindor sucked but everyone else played to the back of their baseball cards they would be winning alot more

[Snapolit1]

If you asked 10 baseball lifers to list the top 3 reasons the Mets are a disaster this year not one would list Lindor. I guarantee it. To argue that all their problems start with Lindor is off the wall. Scoring 7-8 runs a game lately and can't win.

If you ask Mats fans I'm guessing most of them would say Lindor is the first or second reason the Mets are where they are.

And a lot of them would comment on how much he smiles and how crazy his hair is, which I don't think savvy baseball people are particularly interested in.

Originally Posted by mrreality68

I actually like Lindor and he is not worth his contract. But he stays healthy and plays. His average sucks but he is relatively steady (not spectacular) and he does plays a good position and does put up some good numbers. AGAIN NOT WORTH his contract but that is what he judge him against and WE should. the money the Mets can live with.
The contract will really suck in the later years but

You can keep Stanton and Donaldson. They have health and performance issues.

and 1 Player is not destroying the Mets it is the way the entire team is contracted, the flaws in the roster, and the overall terrible way they are playing. IF lindor sucked but everyone else played to the back of their baseball cards they would be winning alot more