Grade/rate this Namath card.

[glend123]

How much does the ragged left edge detract from the grade? I want to get it graded but not if it's going to be very low.(this would be my first card to get graded ever) I think thats the way it was when it was cut from the sheet.
Thanks

[Taxman]

Probably a 7oc which is a straight 5. I am looking for one to get signed if you decide to sell.

[glend123]

Originally Posted by Taxman

Probably a 7oc which is a straight 5. I am looking for one to get signed if you decide to sell.

Anyone else with another opinion or comment? Do these ragged edges show up a lot or on other cards of this set also?

[pawpawdiv9]

I had mine for a while and decided to keep it 'RAW', tho i been getting offers, so re-thinking of grading it?? Maybe

Here's mine Namath RC -- (i have only seen 1 butterfly tat version, and wish i bidded more on it)


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[Il Padrino]

One of the most beautiful rookie cards EVER!!!! Keep it raw and set it on your desk to see every day and think JOE NAMATH style every time the boss walks in. You tell that SOB "I am going to win the Super Bowl" or some variation to that (I am the best in the company, etc).

[AP-ALL-DAY]

Edges
Centering
Surface
Corners

All grade able criteria. Don't go BGS, they will just kill it. I'd go SGC or PSA. Vintage is tough to grade, but you have a nice card. I'd be interested in it if you'd like to trade. I'm putting together a stack of cards for my kids when they get to be 25 I'm going to turn them over to them. They are 3 and 5 now.

[freakhappy]

Nice looking Namath! The miscut/oc will kill the grade...assuming it's not trimmed. IMO, you should definitely go with PSA and let them put the qualifier on it. Reason being is if it does indeed grade a 7 or 6(oc), it will look better in a high grade holder. If you don't get a qualifier, good luck getting it in a holder any higher than a 4.

[BigRedOne]

I don't know? While the centering seems to be the main issue, It looks to be a fairly solid card. I have to respectfully disagree about using PSA and having them put the O/C qualifier on it. Anybody with any sense at all can see that the card is o/c, so I see no reason to have PSA label it as such. The o/c qualifier puts a "Black mark" on cards that puts a psycological thought in peoples heads that the card is of less quality than even another card that has similar centering.

I think the card would be much more attractive in an SGC holder without the stigma of any o/c qualfier.

Just my 2 cents worth.

Nice Card

John

[glend123]

So, If it gets graded a "5" by PSA, and I want to sell, would I have been better off just keeping it raw and letting someone else get it graded?

[Sean1125]

My thoughts are Straight 4-4.5 or "6 to 7" OC.

[pawpawdiv9]

May i ask you guys about MY card pic i posted. What do you experts think of it? or do with it??

[freakhappy]

Originally Posted by BigRedOne

I don't know? While the centering seems to be the main issue, It looks to be a fairly solid card. I have to respectfully disagree about using PSA and having them put the O/C qualifier on it. Anybody with any sense at all can see that the card is o/c, so I see no reason to have PSA label it as such. The o/c qualifier puts a "Black mark" on cards that puts a psycological thought in peoples heads that the card is of less quality than even another card that has similar centering.

I think the card would be much more attractive in an SGC holder without the stigma of any o/c qualfier.

Just my 2 cents worth.

Nice Card

John

John, I agree with pretty much what you are saying, but here is my point when I suggested it being slabbed by PSA:

Many people think the qualifier is a black eye on the card and don't like it, BUT there are people that do not and that is the point. As most people know, PSA draws a huge crowd and will pay good money for the holder...actually way too much for the holder and not so much for the card as that is what they should be paying attention to. I agree that SGC's slabs look better and are more appealing, but all it takes is one person to admire the PSA "higher graded" Namath and pay the price. Although a card will be docked because of it being off center, being off center doesn't really mark the card like creasing and such. It's simply a manufacturer error and the card can otherwise be in tip top shape. Believe me when I say that there are many people that would love to have a Namath in PSA 7 or 6(oc) than a PSA 4. I for one, do not care for qualifiers but for resale, I think there's a better chance to get more out of it in this instance.

All in all, you make some great points, John.

[freakhappy]

Originally Posted by pawpawdiv9

May i ask you guys about MY card pic i posted. What do you experts think of it? or do with it??

I'm no expert, but if you gave more condition details, I could at least give a solid opinion on what I would do with it.

Are you looking to sell? Are you asking if you grade it or keep it raw, which would bring a higher amount? Just by looking at it, it looks to be in the 4 range, but I definitely need more details to give you a solid opinion. Nice card by the way! I've always loved Namath's rookie card.

[pawpawdiv9]

Originally Posted by freakhappy

I'm no expert, but if you gave more condition details, I could at least give a solid opinion on what I would do with it.

Are you looking to sell? Are you asking if you grade it or keep it raw, which would bring a higher amount? Just by looking at it, it looks to be in the 4 range, but I definitely need more details to give you a solid opinion. Nice card by the way! I've always loved Namath's rookie card.

I was wondering about the grade, first off. Then wonder if i should grade it or not. If i did, it be thru SGC tho.

[freakhappy]

Originally Posted by pawpawdiv9

I was wondering about the grade, first off. Then wonder if i should grade it or not. If i did, it be thru SGC tho.

Can you give me details about the card? Creases? Overall defects on the card? It's just hard to tell from the pics. I'm a big fan of grading, so personally, I would get it graded just for protection and looks alone. From the pics you posted and without knowing further details, it looks in the "4-5" range. If it has creases, that grade would most likely dip a little.

[pawpawdiv9]

Heres a better crop pic of it.
From what i see with the naked eye..no creases.
I do not have a loupe.magnify glass to see anything in detail.
Looks like a tilt maybe??
I have it in a screw down holder for now.

[bn2cardz]

Ragged edges apparently play no affect on grading with psa:

[pawpawdiv9]

very nice...first thing i looked for, was there any frosting?
I seen where people punch the slab, and put in a cheaper card.

[bn2cardz]

Originally Posted by pawpawdiv9

very nice...first thing i looked for, was there any frosting?
I seen where people punch the slab, and put in a cheaper card.

Is that a reference to what I posted? I am sure that isn't an altered case, that came from the PSA website.

[pawpawdiv9]

Originally Posted by bn2cardz

Is that a reference to what I posted? I am sure that isn't an altered case, that came from the PSA website.

Ok, just wondering, nice thats its a 10. I never looked at the PSA site for buying.

[freakhappy]

Originally Posted by bn2cardz

Is that a reference to what I posted? I am sure that isn't an altered case, that came from the PSA website.

No, the case isn't altered. When the grading companies grade O-pee-chee, they are more forgiving because that is how they were cut in Canada. Apparently they never changed their blades resulting in these rough edges. So the grading companies grade them accordingly. I'm not sure i love it, but it is what it is.

I would definitely grade the Namath. I think it's in the five range (give or take a grade) if it does not have any creases or indentions and such. This is my opinion based on your pic.