|
#1
|
|||
|
|||
Define poor-fair condition
Posted By: Jim Clarke
Got in a group of OJ's today from an auction house. Advertised as poor-fair condition. It looks like some of them have been trimmed. When I call the company they said that is why they are in that grade. I thought they were in that grade because of having creases in them and scap book paper on the back. Should they have mentional that they have been altered or trimmed or by stating the grade no mention was neccessary? JC |
#2
|
|||
|
|||
Define poor-fair condition
Posted By: Steve M.
that the best grade for a trimmed card would be "A" or "Authentic". Any card grade, even as low as poor, should not be trimmed. I think they misled you in not properly describing the condition of the cards. |
#3
|
|||
|
|||
Define poor-fair condition
Posted By: davidcycleback
Trimmed cards don't grade above Poor. Poor/fair usually means the cards are well worn, but with no trimming. If it was a group lot, the grades may have varied-- fair to poor, thus fair/poor on average. In general, it's good to mention trimming. However, if you buy a 'Grade Poor' lot of 300 1955 Topps, it shouldn't a shocker if that means some are taped or trimmed, even if the seller doesn't mention it. But, as mentioned at the start, a poor/fair single card shouldn't be trimmed. |
#4
|
|||
|
|||
Define poor-fair condition
Posted By: joe
Absolutely should have been described as trimmed. There are many collectors, especially on this board that collect poor-fair cards, but do not want trimmed. |
#5
|
|||
|
|||
Define poor-fair condition
Posted By: Judge Dred (Fred)
JC, |
#6
|
|||
|
|||
Define poor-fair condition
Posted By: Tom Boblitt
with everyone above--especially if you subscribe to the graded card theory.......the grading companies will not assign a poor/fair grade to a trimmed card. Trimmed cards should be noted as such. Not sure what the auction house is but that should be grounds for a return. They have just about eliminated all the language on returns unless something is incorrectly described. I think you'd find enough concensus on this board to argue that point. If you want to keep the cards, try to get some compensation for the differential between P/F and trimmed cards. If you don't want them, try to get your money back. I won a lot of all 4 Ty Cobb T206's a long time ago from Mastro (and Steinbach at the time) and the bat off shoulder was trimmed. I contacted them and got a 15% refund on the lot and kept all 4 cards. |
#7
|
|||
|
|||
Define poor-fair condition
Posted By: Brian Goldner
If there are trimmed or otherwise altered cards, it should have been mentioned as such. |
#8
|
|||
|
|||
Define poor-fair condition
Posted By: Jim Clarke
Here is the lot description: |
#9
|
|||
|
|||
Define poor-fair condition
Posted By: Judge Dred (Fred)
Oh yeah, P-F...with respect to OJs... |
#10
|
|||
|
|||
Define poor-fair condition
Posted By: Judge Dred (Fred)
JC, can you copy and paste the scan that was provided for the item description? |
#11
|
|||
|
|||
Define poor-fair condition
Posted By: Gilbert Maines
Until recently the term "authentic" was not frequently encountered in card grade terminology. Certainly "trimmed" and "poor/fair" were often seen. A lot of "poor/fair" cards in my estimation could include some trimmed ones (depending on the quality of the others), since the term could be intended to present an average grade for the lot. Individual trimmed cards however, should be accurately described as such. |
#12
|
|||
|
|||
Define poor-fair condition
Posted By: Josh K.
Gil, I dont believe that the cards posted above are the cards from the auction. |
#13
|
|||
|
|||
Define poor-fair condition
Posted By: Jim Clarke
I tried to copy the photo from the website but it would not let me do so. I could provide a link, but that would give away the company. From the same company I recieved some graded cards as well. I'll start a new thred on it and let you pick the grade.. |
#14
|
|||
|
|||
Define poor-fair condition
Posted By: warshawlaw
Like porn, I know it when I see it. |
#15
|
|||
|
|||
Define poor-fair condition
Posted By: jay behrens
Way back when there were no grading companies, a trimmed card was could not technically be graded better than Poor. In old-scholl terms, there was nothing wrong with the lot description, but in todays enviroment and the changing standards for grading set forth by the slabbers, any trimming should be noted since these cards will not recieve a technical grade from the slabbers. The world of slabbing, there is a huge difference between Poor and Auth. |
#16
|
|||
|
|||
Define poor-fair condition
Posted By: Gilbert Maines
Yes Josh, I read too fast, and spoke too soon. You are right, those scans were not the lot in question. |
|
|
Similar Threads | ||||
Thread | Thread Starter | Forum | Replies | Last Post |
T206 poor-fair condition Bill Hart SLer FOR SALE $35 | Archive | Tobacco (T) cards, except T206 B/S/T | 3 | 09-06-2007 08:08 PM |
WANTED: T205 Cobb in poor-fair condition | Archive | Tobacco (T) cards, except T206 B/S/T | 2 | 06-02-2007 10:28 PM |
Wanted: E95 Poor/Fair | Archive | Pre-WWII cards (E, D, M, W, etc..) B/S/T | 4 | 03-22-2007 05:45 AM |
Wanted: T3 and T209-1 (poor-fair) | Archive | Tobacco (T) cards, except T206 B/S/T | 1 | 01-06-2007 07:57 AM |
Broadleaf 460 Good,Fair or Poor? | Archive | Net54baseball Vintage (WWII & Older) Baseball Cards & New Member Introductions | 6 | 03-17-2003 07:13 AM |