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Old 09-21-2019, 11:10 AM
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Default Fake memorabilia auction thread.

I figures it might be good to have a thread where people can post items they feel are fake being posted fir sale accross the various selling websites.

I will start it off.

https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?m...2F333327045310

This seller has listed this as an original whistle from the 1940s being used by Bill Chadwick.
Why do i think its fake? Notice how the engraving is above all the scratches. If it were original, the scratches would go through the engraving as part of the wearing process. That plus the fact that in his history there multiple other whistles, cigarette cases, etc from some pretty rare events like the 1903 WS. Most sold pretty cheap. I dont k ow anything abiut the war stuff he is selling, but the sports items all look bogus to me.

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As far as I can tell nearly all his historical items are rubbish too.

It's all laser etched/engraved on actual old items, basically anything that's got enough space to put a name and some "interesting" logo or info.

The machine to do this runs about $3000 for a decent one, but there are cheaper ones out there.
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Old 09-24-2019, 11:03 AM
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Either him or another seller in England has been discussed before. Selling total crap fantasy pieces that people bid on. The buyers are either morons or just don't care. I am sorry that I missed out on the Iron Maiden 1980 Tour cigarette case. I am sure that was legitimate.
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I wish this was around over the summer. A guy in England was selling old press pins - one was the 1939 world series. The details on it just weren't the same quality as one that is authentic. The same seller had at least 8 different press pin auctions going because they had "recently bought a collection." I alerted the ebay that I thought it was fraudulent but they didn't care. That 1939 Reds vs Yankees press pin sold for a pretty penny.
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I wish this was around over the summer. A guy in England was selling old press pins - one was the 1939 world series. The details on it just weren't the same quality as one that is authentic. The same seller had at least 8 different press pin auctions going because they had "recently bought a collection." I alerted the ebay that I thought it was fraudulent but they didn't care. That 1939 Reds vs Yankees press pin sold for a pretty penny.
These come up constantly.
In fact there are about 10 listed now up for autction from a seller in Germany, from 1911 through 1945

They always seem to sell for more than a cheap replica should. Ebay has been notified, but I think they get away with it by not ever actually saying they are "original"


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Old 09-27-2019, 09:56 PM
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That 1939 pin was over $100 because it was Yankees related. I felt bad for the sap that bought it. When I first saw it I thought, this price is too good to be true. So I looked for authentic examples and compared. I was happy I did so then I wouldn't be the poor sap who paid too much.


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These come up constantly.
In fact there are about 10 listed now up for autction from a seller in Germany, from 1911 through 1945

They always seem to sell for more than a cheap replica should. Ebay has been notified, but I think they get away with it by not ever actually saying they are "original"


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first off it was called "Worlds", not World back then. Also, I believe it was "Pittsburg" not Pittsburgh at that time.

love when they are so stupid they can't even get these things right, makes spotting fakes easier.
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first off it was called "Worlds", not World back then. Also, I believe it was "Pittsburg" not Pittsburgh at that time.

love when they are so stupid they can't even get these things right, makes spotting fakes easier.
Isn't it quite odd that the ink stains above the 3 and on the left did not find their way into the engraving. That must be some magic engraving that resists any type of aging or ink stains.

I sent him a note:

"All your stuff is jobby (Scot for feces). We would never call it an inkpot. What do you expect from a skirt wearer."
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Isn't it quite odd that the ink stains above the 3 and on the left did not find their way into the engraving. That must be some magic engraving that resists any type of aging or ink stains.

I sent him a note:

"All your stuff is jobby (Scot for feces). We would never call it an inkpot. What do you expect from a skirt wearer."
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When a presentation piece is given to an athlete 99% of the time the piece is brand new when engraved. So obviously as the new piece ages and gets dinged around the engraving would be be dinged around as well. A little common sense for potential buyers is all that is needed to realize these are no legitimate pieces
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first off it was called "Worlds", not World back then. Also, I believe it was "Pittsburg" not Pittsburgh at that time.

love when they are so stupid they can't even get these things right, makes spotting fakes easier.
The same seller had a cup supposedly given to Francis Ouimet. He was the 14 year old who won the US Open and the movie The Greatest Game Ever Played was about. It was engraved sideways on the cup! I looked it up and he did win the event that was on the cup but I just started thinking about it, sideways?? then I looked at his stuff for sale and a lot was engraved items, oh boy. Anyway the cup sold for nearly $1000. Beware.
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