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Need some help with a 19th century baseball cabinet
Posted By: warshawlaw
I picked up a cabinet of a baseball team dated 1878. The image is beautiful; the backing is not. The team is called the "meteors" and is from North Attleboro, MA. I don't recognize any of the players. I will scan and post a link to a photo later when I get home. The cabinet is imperial sized and features a printed roster of the 10 players. They are all wearing high top shoes, bib uni's with bow ties and there is a player holding an orange peel ball. There is also a catcher's mask depicted. Any ideas; a google search has come up a dead end. |
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Need some help with a 19th century baseball cabinet
Posted By: Trevor Hocking
WOW Adam you are quit the 19th century baseball guy now. |
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Need some help with a 19th century baseball cabinet
Posted By: drc
Even if the team and players are obscure, a nice large 1870s mounted baseball photo will have good value. It depends on condition and aesthetics, but players wearing white shoes and bib uniforms and a lemon peal ball will be most desirable. The catcher's mask was invented in the 1870s, so this would be an early picture of that equipment. Pre-1880 baseball photos are limited, with large version especially desirable. |
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Need some help with a 19th century baseball cabinet
Posted By: warshawlaw
As I stated the mount is deteriorating but the image is great. I've had enough old boxing cabinets that I am certain the piece is 19th century. The image shows toning like an OJ (albumen photo), the gold gilt on the mount is tarnished and faded in spots like some of my boxing cabinets. The cabinet is slightly bowed like many of my boxing cabinets. I will post what I can later on. |
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Need some help with a 19th century baseball cabinet
Posted By: warshawlaw
I will post the item to my site with a high res scan shortly. The cabinet is too big to fit on the scanner. I have shown the top of the cabinet with the full image, a cu on a player with the catcher's mask, and a cu of the legend on the bottom. Any ideas as to value? |
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Need some help with a 19th century baseball cabinet
Posted By: Joe_G.
Nothing to add at the moment, just want to congratulate you on a fine piece. |
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Need some help with a 19th century baseball cabinet
Posted By: warshawlaw
link is gone |
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Need some help with a 19th century baseball cabinet
Posted By: drc
The image clarity is hard to beat. It's an 1878 MA team and the catcher's mask was invented at Harvard at 1877. A sports photo with signifcant equipment is worth extra. In part because it makes the image more interesting to everyone and in part because there may be demand from equipment collectors. |
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Need some help with a 19th century baseball cabinet
Posted By: warshawlaw
anyone know what that abbreviation means? |
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Need some help with a 19th century baseball cabinet
Posted By: Andy Baran
I believe that "ch.c" stands for change (back-up) catcher, but I could be wrong. |
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Need some help with a 19th century baseball cabinet
Posted By: ramram
Actually, in spite of the condition, the mount adds some value to the image. The appeal is greater for a mount with the printed team and players name versus a blank mount. |
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Need some help with a 19th century baseball cabinet
Posted By: jason
Hi Adam, thanks for your help earlier on the legal issue! |
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Need some help with a 19th century baseball cabinet
Posted By: warshawlaw
I got it as part of a large card lot and as I am not a collector of these types of giant pieces I have no idea how to value it for insurance purposes. Are we talking $500? $5,000? $50,000 (I wish)? |
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Need some help with a 19th century baseball cabinet
Posted By: drc
If you post the size of the mount, I can give you a better idea of value. |
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Need some help with a 19th century baseball cabinet
Posted By: warshawlaw
It fits into a sleeve for an LP (remember those?). |
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Need some help with a 19th century baseball cabinet
Posted By: jason
Adam, |
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Need some help with a 19th century baseball cabinet
Posted By: warshawlaw
Amazing what can fall into your hands sometimes. |
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Need some help with a 19th century baseball cabinet
Posted By: drc
The rule of thumb for photographs is that, all other qualities equivillent, the larger the photo the more valuable. Larger sizes have more display value and in general are rarer than smaller sizes. A 12 x 14 inches 1870s baseball is not the largest, but is oversized for the 1870s and even for the 1880s and 1890s. Comparing it to the cabinet card (4-1/2" x 6-1/2"), you can see that it's larger than normal. |
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Need some help with a 19th century baseball cabinet
Posted By: Adam J. Baxter
Nice pick-up Adam! Early photos like this from the New England area are always neat. The South Coast area of Massachusetts (Fall River, New Bedford, etc.)was a hotbed for baseball during the 1870's-'80's. Historical Societies in the area would go nuts over a piece like that. |
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Need some help with a 19th century baseball cabinet
Posted By: warshawlaw
He had a wealth of information which I will pass on to the new owner of the photo. |
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Need some help with a 19th century baseball cabinet
Posted By: Jim Manos
Thanks Jim Manos |
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