NonSports Forum

Net54baseball.com
Welcome to Net54baseball.com. These forums are devoted to both Pre- and Post- war baseball cards and vintage memorabilia, as well as other sports. There is a separate section for BSelling and Trading - the B/S/T area!! If you write anything concerning a person or company your full name needs to be in your post or obtainable from it. . Contact the moderator at leon@net54baseball.com should you have any questions or concerns. Enjoy!
Net54baseball.com
Net54baseball.com
ebay GSB
T206s on Ebay
Pre-WWII Cards
Post WWII Cards
Vintage Memorabilia
Babe Ruth Cards
Ty Cobb Cards
Lou Gehrig Cards
Mickey Mantle Cards
Goudey Cards
Bowman Cards
T205s on Ebay
Tobacco "T" Cards
Caramel "E" Cards
Vintage Baseball Postcards
Football Cards on Ebay
Exhibit Cards
Strip Cards
Baking Cards
Sporting News
Playball Cards on Ebay

Go Back   Net54baseball.com Forums > Net54baseball Main Forum - WWII & Older Baseball Cards > Net54baseball Vintage (WWII & Older) Baseball Cards & New Member Introductions

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 08-11-2020, 01:13 PM
Leon's Avatar
Leon Leon is offline
Leon
peasant/forum owner
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: near Dallas
Posts: 29,897
Default T206 Subsets

Since Ryan (hey Ryan) asked about my T206 subset endeavor why not have a thread about them? For some reason mine seem to have similar characteristics...

__________________
Leon Luckey

Last edited by Leon; 08-11-2020 at 02:26 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 08-11-2020, 02:03 PM
mrvster mrvster is offline
Member
 
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 4,199
Default Beautiful cards

Leon!
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 08-11-2020, 04:20 PM
CobbSpikedMe's Avatar
CobbSpikedMe CobbSpikedMe is offline
Andy Hunt00n
Member
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Belle Mead, NJ
Posts: 1,692
Default

My two subsets don't compare to Leon's HOFer examples above, but here they are.

1. The four Jersey City Skeeters from the set. I collect all Skeeters cards.
2. The six horizontals. I picked these up 15-20 years ago and the Birmingham has the purple number back stamp that I collect also.


.
Attached Images
File Type: jpg T206 Jersey City Team.jpg (21.6 KB, 637 views)
File Type: jpg T206Horizontals.JPG (44.3 KB, 636 views)
__________________
I'm always looking for t206's with purple numbers stamped on the back like the one in my avatar.

The Great T206 Back Stamp Project: Click Here
My Online Trading Site: Click Here
Member of OBC (Old Baseball Cards), the longest running on-line collecting club www.oldbaseball.com
My Humble Blog: Click Here
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 08-11-2020, 05:37 PM
Rhotchkiss's Avatar
Rhotchkiss Rhotchkiss is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2016
Posts: 2,439
Default

Nice. This should be a great thread. The subsets I am working on are Brown Old Mill and Brown Lenox (links to collection below), and I have a master t206 back subset; one example of each back, including series and factory variation (like below)

Brown Old Mill and Brown Lenox: https://www.flickr.com/photos/156271...57679539932638



Master back run: https://www.flickr.com/photos/156271...57676773830297
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 08-11-2020, 05:44 PM
t206kid t206kid is offline
Jay
Member
 
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 812
Default Sovereign 150s!

I have 141/150 Sovereign 150s.
Attached Images
File Type: jpg img895.jpg (78.3 KB, 620 views)
File Type: jpg img896.jpg (78.4 KB, 616 views)
File Type: jpg img897.jpg (75.1 KB, 615 views)
File Type: jpg img898.jpg (76.2 KB, 620 views)
File Type: jpg img901.jpg (77.3 KB, 609 views)
File Type: jpg img902.jpg (77.8 KB, 608 views)
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 08-11-2020, 08:25 PM
Rich Falvo Rich Falvo is online now
Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2017
Location: RI
Posts: 357
Default

I'm working on a Providence team master set, but new ones are hard to come by lately. Would love to add the Lavender to complete the Cycles.

Cycle Composite.jpg
__________________
Looking for a Jimmy Lavender Cycle plus most EPDG, American Beauty or Tolstoi backs for Providence players.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 08-12-2020, 09:10 AM
3-2-count's Avatar
3-2-count 3-2-count is offline
Tony Andrea
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: AZ
Posts: 1,444
Default

Great thread which is right up my alley. Terrific cards everyone!

Much like Leon I've concentrated only on examples for my HOF portrait subset which display superior- color, clarity, registration and acceptable above average centering.

One small difference for me though is that all of these were graded at one time but have since been cracked out for two reasons. One, they look better raw. And two, well they look better raw

Please excuse the cards which look smaller than others. Its just the scan as all are full size and unaltered!












Last edited by 3-2-count; 08-12-2020 at 08:38 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 08-12-2020, 09:13 AM
3-2-count's Avatar
3-2-count 3-2-count is offline
Tony Andrea
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: AZ
Posts: 1,444
Default

And the balance -





Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 08-12-2020, 09:38 AM
MVSNYC MVSNYC is offline
Member
 
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 2,706
Default

Tony, incredible eye appeal! Registration/clarity is one of my biggest pet peeves, and these all sing, they're so well registered! Their faces pull you right in.

Last edited by MVSNYC; 08-12-2020 at 09:40 AM.
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 08-12-2020, 10:39 AM
Rhotchkiss's Avatar
Rhotchkiss Rhotchkiss is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2016
Posts: 2,439
Default

Great looking cards Tony
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 08-12-2020, 10:43 AM
3-2-count's Avatar
3-2-count 3-2-count is offline
Tony Andrea
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: AZ
Posts: 1,444
Default

Michael & Ryan - Many thanks my brothers!
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 08-13-2020, 02:23 AM
Santo10Fan Santo10Fan is offline
Ben
ben tay/lor
 
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: Chicago
Posts: 447
Default Baseball's Sad Lexicon

Published: New York Evening Mail (July 10, 1910)

These are the saddest of possible words:
"Tinker to Evers to Chance."
Trio of bear cubs, and fleeter than birds,
Tinker and Evers and Chance.
Ruthlessly pricking our gonfalon bubble,
Making a Giant hit into a double-
Words that are heavy with nothing but trouble:
"Tinker to Evers to Chance."


__________________
BZT
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 08-13-2020, 08:24 PM
tedzan tedzan is online now
Ted Zanidakis
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Pennsylvania & Maine
Posts: 8,632
Default AMERICAN BEAUTY 460 sub-set

Since 2005, progress on my AMERICAN BEAUTY 460 (AB 460) run is near completion. American Lithographic printed 74 subjects with the AB 460 back.

I have 73 of them.....I only need the Camnitz (hands over head) card. On display here are some of the really difficult cards to find in this T206 sub-set.


Hey guys, anyone here interested in smoking a 109 year old American Beauty cigarette
.
.................. Some of the really tough to find AB 460 cards in this sub-set ...................



And, the toughest, mainly due to low supply vs. high demand.

.



TED Z

T206 Reference
.
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 08-14-2020, 07:29 AM
Rhotchkiss's Avatar
Rhotchkiss Rhotchkiss is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2016
Posts: 2,439
Default

I always thought this was a super tough AB 460. It was the last back I found for my tinker, bat off, back run, and I have only seen one for sale in the last 3-4 years (this one); meanwhile I have seen the Cobb bat off AB 460 come up at least 2-3 times over that period.

Indeed, Tinker bat off has a few extremely tough combos- this piedmont factory 42 is 1 of 2 known, and this Uzit combo is very rare as well; all 2011 issues
Attached Images
File Type: jpg B9EB32DE-6B0C-4207-94CC-A68163F1E957.jpg (19.6 KB, 400 views)
File Type: jpg B370D0D2-D6DF-49F8-999F-2EEE77908A95.jpg (16.3 KB, 400 views)
File Type: jpg B6FBDB59-F0AB-4BC6-96A6-7B708CFEF9EE.jpg (12.0 KB, 402 views)

Last edited by Rhotchkiss; 08-14-2020 at 07:34 AM.
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 08-14-2020, 08:01 AM
tedzan tedzan is online now
Ted Zanidakis
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Pennsylvania & Maine
Posts: 8,632
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rhotchkiss View Post
I always thought this was a super tough AB 460. It was the last back I found for my tinker, bat off, back run, and I have only seen one for sale in the last 3-4 years (this one); meanwhile I have seen the Cobb bat off AB 460 come up at least 2-3 times over that period.

Indeed, Tinker bat off has a few extremely tough combos- this piedmont factory 42 is 1 of 2 known, and this Uzit combo is very rare as well; all 2011 issues

Hi Ryan

You are absolutely correct. In fact, both Tinker's (with bats) are tough to find with the AB 460 back. But, the "Bat Off Shoulder" version is the toughest.


Here is my list of the most difficult to find AB 460 cards in my experience putting together this sub-set......

350/460 Series

Cobb (bat off shoulder)
Jennings (one hand)
Lajoie (bat)
McQuillan (bat)
Overall (yellow sky)
F. Smith (Chicago & Boston)
Steinfeldt (bat)
Tinker (bat off shoulder)
Wagner (bat on right)
Wilhelm (bat)
Wiltse (pitching)


460-only Series

Abbaticchio (blue sleeves)
Ball (Cleveland)
Camnitz (arms above head)
Chance (bat)
Chase (trophy)
Doyle (portrait)
Howell (hand on waist)
Lake (with ball)
McGraw (portrait-cap)
Murray (portrait)
Oldring (batting)
Payne
Schaefer (Washington)
Schlei (portrait)
Tinker (bat on shoulder)
Wiltse (portrait-cap)


TED Z

T206 Reference
.
Reply With Quote
  #16  
Old 08-14-2020, 12:35 PM
tedzan tedzan is online now
Ted Zanidakis
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Pennsylvania & Maine
Posts: 8,632
Default All -- PIEDMONT subset

In 2006....I broke-up my 2nd T206 set in order to put together an All - PIEDMONT sub-set comprising of 520 cards (no Wagner, nor Plank). I figured that it should
be a relatively easy adventure, since American Lithographic printed over 50% of the T206's they produced with the PIEDMONT advertisements. In the 1st decade of
the 20th Century, Piedmont was the "Flagship" brand of the American Tobacco Company.


Examples of star cards in this set

. . . . . .






Example 15-card page from my album

. .



Eventually, I acquired a MAGIE to update this set to 519 cards.

June 2007, I found a card which I refer to as a "poor man's" substitute for the Joe Doyle Nat'L. Check-out Post #985 in this thread...."Poor man's Joe Doyle Nat'L

Finally, my PIEDMONT sub-set was complete with 520 cards.


TED Z

T206 Reference
.
Reply With Quote
  #17  
Old 08-15-2020, 08:01 PM
tedzan tedzan is online now
Ted Zanidakis
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Pennsylvania & Maine
Posts: 8,632
Default All - SWEET CAPORAL, Factory #30 sub-set

This SWEET CAP run comprises of 469 cards. I started this sub-set in 2007, and it was fairly easy to complete a 467-card set. Plank and Wagner are the 468th and 469th cards.
It took 9 years to finally acquire the Eddie Plank card. Especially because I was searching for a decent looking SWEET CAPORAL 150, Factory #30 card at a reasonable price.
No dice on an SWEET CAP 350 card. Those versions are not as pretty.


.


Listed here are the 55 - No Prints in this set......

Joe Doyle NY Nat'l
Lundgren (Cubs)
Magie
Demmitt (St Louis American)
O'Hara (St Louis Nat'l)
Kleinow (Boston)
F.Smith (Chicago & Boston)
48........Southern Leaguers


Here is a sampling of some of the stars in this sub-set. Including their back scans of their respective 150, 350, and 460 Series......
.
TED Z

T206 Reference
.
Reply With Quote
  #18  
Old 08-19-2020, 08:09 AM
tedzan tedzan is online now
Ted Zanidakis
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Pennsylvania & Maine
Posts: 8,632
Default All - SOVEREIGN sub-set

This sub-set was a really interesting experience. It took me approx. 11 months to complete this set of 402 different SOVEREIGN subjects.

I always favored the GREEN colored T206 backs. So, I figured a SOVEREIGN set would be relatively easy to complete, since there is no Wagner, Plank , Joe Doyle Nat'L, Magie,
Demmitt or O'Hara (St Louis variations), Lundgren, and no Southern League series (48 cards). Well, I was very mistaken. The SOVEREIGN set was quite a challenge in itself.
Besides the 55 above noted No-Prints, I had to determine which other T206 cards were NOT printed with SOVEREIGN backs. The total number of SOVEREIGN No Prints is 122.
I am pleased to report to you that my list of No-Prints have withstood the test of time.

Furthermore, the Six Super Prints (which Scot Reader identified in his great book "Inside T206") where introduced when American Lithographic printed the SOVEREIGN cards.

Shown here are the Six Super-Prints with their SOVEREIGN 350 backs and their SOVEREIGN 460 backs......

.
. .
............






TED Z

T206 Reference
.
Reply With Quote
  #19  
Old 08-19-2020, 10:21 AM
White Borders's Avatar
White Borders White Borders is offline
Craig Wright
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: South-Central Kansas
Posts: 722
Default Lundgren Chicago

T206 291! Lundgren Chicago Back Run.jpg
__________________
craig_w67217@yahoo.com
Reply With Quote
  #20  
Old 01-21-2021, 10:46 AM
Leon's Avatar
Leon Leon is offline
Leon
peasant/forum owner
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: near Dallas
Posts: 29,897
Default

Older thread but added a few raw examples....paid up for them but like 'em.

__________________
Leon Luckey

Last edited by Leon; 01-21-2021 at 11:01 AM.
Reply With Quote
  #21  
Old 01-21-2021, 12:14 PM
tonyo's Avatar
tonyo tonyo is offline
Tony Ooten
Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Woodstock GA
Posts: 1,341
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Leon View Post
Older thread but added a few raw examples....paid up for them but like 'em.

is your subset big borders?
Reply With Quote
  #22  
Old 01-21-2021, 12:41 PM
Leon's Avatar
Leon Leon is offline
Leon
peasant/forum owner
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: near Dallas
Posts: 29,897
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by tonyo View Post
is your subset big borders?
Yeppers. Not too concerned about sharp corners but the bottom name needs to appear and they should have large top borders. And I prefer decent centering and eye appeal, of course. This one is a little o/c for me but not bad considering it has a nice top.
Attached Images
File Type: jpg batton1.jpg (77.2 KB, 149 views)
__________________
Leon Luckey
Reply With Quote
  #23  
Old 01-21-2021, 01:53 PM
brianp-beme's Avatar
brianp-beme brianp-beme is offline
Member
 
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 4,332
Default

Here is a subset of portraits with red/orange backgrounds, mostly two-toned...not complete, but it sure is pretty.

Brian
Attached Images
File Type: jpg t206redorange088 (800x718).jpg (70.3 KB, 128 views)

Last edited by brianp-beme; 01-21-2021 at 01:54 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #24  
Old 01-21-2021, 05:23 PM
hcv123 hcv123 is offline
Howard Chasser
Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: NY
Posts: 2,377
Default That's one I haven't seen before

Quote:
Originally Posted by brianp-beme View Post
Here is a subset of portraits with red/orange backgrounds, mostly two-toned...not complete, but it sure is pretty.

Brian
Cool idea and yeah, they look great together!
Reply With Quote
  #25  
Old 01-21-2021, 08:57 PM
Ronnie73 Ronnie73 is offline
Ron Kornacki - Uncle Nacki
Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Connecticut
Posts: 838
Default

I only have a couple T206 Subsets completed. Old Mill SL which is fairly common and my Sweet Caporal 350-460 Factory 30 "No Prints" (Missing the Scroll Overprint). The complete set consists of 28 cards. So far this is the only known complete set because only one Lajoie With Bat has shown up. There are 3 other cards in this set that have only 2 known. I'm always looking to trade my duplicates for others that I'm missing for a partial second set.

__________________
Ron - Uncle Nacki

T206 Master Monster Front/Back Set Collector - www.youtube.com/unclenacki
T206 Basic "The Monster" Set 514/524
T206 Advanced "Master Monster" Front/Back Set ????/5256
COMPLETE T206 BACK SUBSETS
Old Mill Southern Leagues - Black Ink 48/48
Sweet Caporal 350-460 Factory 30 Full Color "No Prints" 28/28
NEAR COMPLETE T206 BACK SUBSETS
Polar Bear 245/250
Sovereign 460 50/52
Sweet Caporal 150 Factory 649 Overprint 31/34
Piedmont 350 "Elite 11" 9/11

Reply With Quote
Reply



Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Favorite subsets 1963Topps Set Postwar Baseball Cards Forum (Pre-1980) 4 02-19-2019 04:06 PM
When storing raw sets, subsets, ect... bosoxfan Postwar Baseball Cards Forum (Pre-1980) 19 04-04-2012 06:28 PM
How do you value subsets? JasonL Net54baseball Vintage (WWII & Older) Baseball Cards & New Member Introductions 3 03-24-2010 08:22 PM


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 07:05 PM.


ebay GSB