World Series Predictions?

[Snapolit1]

Let's see if anyone nails it. Or comes close.

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Dodgers in 6. Ohtani continues to rake at a historic mind-boggling level and their pitching is surprisingly good. Can really see them thriving at home. Judge a so-so series, Soto a very good series, but surprisingly Yankees don't hit enough. If Cole craps out tonight, they are in deep quickly.

That's how I see it.

[BobbyStrawberry]

Originally Posted by Snapolit1

Let's see if anyone nails it. Or comes close.

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Dodgers in 6. Ohtani continues to rake at a historic mind-boggling level and their pitching is surprisingly good. Can really see them thriving at home. Judge a so-so series, Soto a very good series, but surprisingly Yankees don't hit enough. If Cole craps out tonight, they are in deep quickly.

That's how I see it.

Dodgers in six is exactly what I've been telling people. The way I see it, LA has a slight advantage in pitching and a substantial advantage in hitting. The managers are about equal - both are prone to dumb in-game decisions IMO.

I expect Ohtani to shine on the biggest stage.

[philliesfan]

Who Cares.

[Snapolit1]

And to think, some people in the country think Philly sports fans are just obnoxious nasty cranks.

[nolemmings]

Yankees in 6.

[frankbmd]

The first team to score 50 runs.

[John1941]

Originally Posted by BobbyStrawberry

Dodgers in six is exactly what I've been telling people. The way I see it, LA has a slight advantage in pitching and a substantial advantage in hitting. The managers are about equal - both are prone to dumb in-game decisions IMO.

I expect Ohtani to shine on the biggest stage.

The Yankees had a 3.74 ERA in the regular season (110 ERA+); the Dodgers, 3.90 and 99 respectively. Additionally, two of the Dodgers' top starters in the regular season, Stone and Glasnow, are injured. The Dodgers do have better batting, but in my opinion their pitching is substantially inferior.

I'm hoping for Yankees in seven. I think the two teams are essentially even - both had Pythagorean win-losses of 96-66 in the regular season - so we'll just see what happens.

[Casey2296]

Seven games of incredible baseball would be optimal.

[bk400]

Originally Posted by Casey2296

Seven games of incredible baseball would be optimal.

That's one.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Judge is in an untimely slump.

[Shoeless Moe]

Yankees just fumbled a key win away. They are in trouble.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Shoeless Moe

Yankees just fumbled a key win away. They are in trouble.

I don't think they had walked a batter until the 10th. Walks are always the undoing of a team, it seems.

[Casey2296]

Originally Posted by bk400

That's one.

Awesome game.

[Balticfox]

Originally Posted by Casey2296

Seven games of incredible baseball would be optimal.

Somehow I don't think we'll get even one.

[bk400]

Originally Posted by Balticfox

Somehow I don't think we'll get even one.

Ok, I'll take the bait. What didn't you like about tonight's game?

[Balticfox]

Zombie runners came into play which tarnishes the whole game. In hockey they still play post season games out to the end. Why can't they do so in baseball as well?

Moreover there was no dramatic play at the plate to decide the game. Home run trots are boring.

[bk400]

Originally Posted by Balticfox

Zombie runners came into play which tarnishes the whole game. In hockey they still play post season games out to the end. Why can't they do so in baseball as well?

Moreover there was no dramatic play at the plate to decide the game. Home run trots are boring.

There were no zombie runners tonight. That's a regular season rule.

An extra inning walk off home run, after some small(ish) ball to get the tying run across in the eighth? Two intentional walks in high leverage situations. One worked well (Soto for Judge), while the other did not (Betts for Freeman).

I dunno, you must have a very high bar if that wasn't good enough for you!

[Casey2296]

Originally Posted by Balticfox

Zombie runners came into play which tarnishes the whole game. In hockey they still play post season games out to the end. Why can't they do so in baseball as well?

Moreover there was no dramatic play at the plate to decide the game. Home run trots are boring.

I dunno, first walk off grand slam in World Series history seems pretty historic to me.

[Aquarian Sports Cards]

Originally Posted by Balticfox

Zombie runners came into play which tarnishes the whole game.

Tell me you didn't watch (or listen) to the game without saying you didn't watch (or listen) to the game.

[Shoeless Moe]

Originally Posted by Balticfox

Zombie runners came into play which tarnishes the whole game. In hockey they still play post season games out to the end. Why can't they do so in baseball as well?

Moreover there was no dramatic play at the plate to decide the game. Home run trots are boring.

Try watching the game next time eh?

You sound like a moron when you don't watch and then comment.

Go drink another Molson eh?

[Balticfox]

Originally Posted by Shoeless Moe

Try watching the game next time eh?

You sound like a moron when you don't watch and then comment.

Go drink another Molson eh?

Okay. I didn't watch the game. I was out buying shoes since a series between the Yankees-Dodgers leaves me underwhelmed.

I was wrong. I do make mistakes on occasion. But using the word "moron" in a reply to me is nonetheless ill advised.



P.S.: Oh, and I don't drink. I never have. That's not among my failings.

And it was Labatt's at which my father worked until he retired and I worked for four summers.

[BobbyStrawberry]

I was surprised they brought Cortes in in that situation. If I'm a Yankee fan, the two pitchers on this roster that make me the most nervous are him and Rodon. If you get the bad version of them you are toast.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Why would you opine at all about a game that you didn't watch, or listen to, or follow online? Do you have a compulsive need to comment on everything maybe? Not that I'm one to talk given how often I post lol, but even so this seems weird and unprecedented.

[Snapolit1]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

It's not a matter of being wrong, it's a matter of opining at all about a game that you didn't watch, or listen to, or follow online. Do you have a compulsive need to comment on everything maybe? Not that I'm one to talk given how often I post lol, but even so this seems weird and unprecedented.

We can argue on matters of opinion, preferences and priorities, but not often someone says something so authoritatively that is verifiably 100% wrong.

[Snapolit1]

On a related note, isn't it weird how many people live on this board and profess to actively dislike baseball? I've never understood that. I have zero interest in Professional Bull Riding, Cornhole, Pickle Ball, or Professional Lacrosse. The idea that I would collect stuff associated with those sports, but never care if I ever saw them and sort of hated them, seems kind of mind boggling to me.

[bk400]

Originally Posted by BobbyStrawberry

I was surprised they brought Cortes in in that situation. If I'm a Yankee fan, the two pitchers on this roster that make me the most nervous are him and Rodon. If you get the bad version of them you are toast.

I'm surprised Aaron Boone didn't let Gerrit Cole try to finish the game. He had the mojo as far as I could tell.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by bk400

I'm surprised Aaron Boone didn't let Gerrit Cole try to finish the game. He had the mojo as far as I could tell.

Not the way it's done any more. Call me old school, but yeah, if your starter has command, leave him in and let those journeymen hang in the pen.

[BobbyStrawberry]

Originally Posted by bk400

I'm surprised Aaron Boone didn't let Gerrit Cole try to finish the game. He had the mojo as far as I could tell.

I agree, Cole was on and he wasn't close to even 100 pitches IIRC. Even then, you have other lefty relievers you can go to.

I also think Roberts' decision to sac bunt with Kike Hernandez earlier in the game was questionable, given how hot he has been in the playoffs.

[Shoeless Moe]

All these managers seem to overmanage in the Postseason.

Look at that genius Steven Vogt in Cleveland.

1st game of the Tigers Series they are up 7-0 and he brings in his closer Clase in the 9th. WHY?????
So next game it's 0-0 in the 9th and in comes Clase and proceeds to give up a 3 run HR. Why use him the day b4 in a 7-0 game????

Proceeds to use him in 4 of the 5 games. Luckily advances, but was he overused because the Yankees then lit him up a couple times.

It will be curious to see if Boone uses Holmes, Kahnle, and Weaver each and every game.......it came back to haunt him in extras yesterday. And Roberts was no better...using Kopech in the 9th was a suicide mission and game almost ended had the ball the fan caught gone about a foot further.

And yes there was a period of rest b4 the Series and there will be between games 2 & 3, but it's not just the rest but it's the opponent seeing the same pitcher 4-5-6-7 straight games. Just seems like a bad idea.

[bnorth]

Yankees in 6 with the score being 5 to 4 that night. The Yankees are going to be on fire except game 4 when they get blown out and Ohtani shines.

[bk400]

Originally Posted by bk400

That's one.

That's two.

[jayshum]

Originally Posted by bk400

That's two.

Could be a costly second win if Ohtani is seriously hurt.

[Aquarian Sports Cards]

Originally Posted by jayshum

Could be a costly second win if Ohtani is seriously hurt.

Why? Ohtani has basically had no impact in the series and precious little in the playoffs. It's his left shoulder and certainly not career threatening or anything crazy

[Peter_Spaeth]

Unless further testing reveals something they haven't seen, he's playing.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Aquarian Sports Cards

Why? Ohtani has basically had no impact in the series and precious little in the playoffs. It's his left shoulder and certainly not career threatening or anything crazy

Your assumption is he would just continue to have no impact, but players who are cold tend to get hot if they're superstars. You would have to evaluate his loss based on the full season.

[jayshum]

Originally Posted by Aquarian Sports Cards

Why? Ohtani has basically had no impact in the series and precious little in the playoffs. It's his left shoulder and certainly not career threatening or anything crazy

Ohtani didn't do much against the Padres but looked pretty good in the Mets series. 1 for 8 so far in the World Series which is a pretty small sample size to just write him off.

[John1941]

Originally Posted by jayshum

Ohtani didn't do much against the Padres but looked pretty good in the Mets series. 1 for 8 so far in the World Series which is a pretty small sample size to just write him off.

"Pretty good in the NLCS" is an understatement, if anything. He got on base 17 times via a .364 average and nine walks, and hit two homers and drove in six runs. Ohtani had a slash-line of .364/.548/.636 for the NLCS and has an overall play-off slash-line of .260/.403/.460. I agree - it's hard to say he's irrelevant.

Unrelated, but it's kind of crazy how Ohtani is 0-2 for stealing this post-season after going 59-63 in the regular season.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by jayshum

Ohtani didn't do much against the Padres but looked pretty good in the Mets series. 1 for 8 so far in the World Series which is a pretty small sample size to just write him off.

He could be oh for the last ten games and it would still be ridiculous IMO to say his loss wouldn't be costly.

[Aquarian Sports Cards]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Your assumption is he would just continue to have no impact, but players who are cold tend to get hot if they're superstars. You would have to evaluate his loss based on the full season.

Originally Posted by jayshum

Ohtani didn't do much against the Padres but looked pretty good in the Mets series. 1 for 8 so far in the World Series which is a pretty small sample size to just write him off.

You're both missing my point. They apparently don't need him to win.

As long as the injury isn't anything that affects him down the road. Losing him in this series doesn't seem to be that big of a deal.

Would I like him back and healthy this series? Of course, as he may well break out. But even without him, up 2 - 0 the Dodgers would be a prohibitive favorite to close things out. So I don't think it's even remotely a "costly 2nd win" unless it was a career affecting event.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Aquarian Sports Cards

You're both missing my point. They apparently don't need him to win.

As long as the injury isn't anything that affects him down the road. Losing him in this series doesn't seem to be that big of a deal.

Would I like him back and healthy this series? Of course, as he may well break out. But even without him, up 2 - 0 the Dodgers would be a prohibitive favorite to close things out. So I don't think it's even remotely a "costly 2nd win" unless it was a career affecting event.

But the same guys who have been hot and carrying the team may well go cold. It's never, IMO, not a big deal to lose your best player.

[Shoeless Moe]

Originally Posted by Aquarian Sports Cards

You're both missing my point. They apparently don't need him to win.

As long as the injury isn't anything that affects him down the road. Losing him in this series doesn't seem to be that big of a deal.

Maybe you and the Canadian should not watch the games together. Did you miss the bottom of the 8th inning in Game 1 when Ohtani hit that shot over Soto's head, off the top of the wall, for a double, then heads up move makes it to 3rd when the ball gets away on the throw in.

He then scores the tying run on Betts fly out. Freeman makes the 3rd out next AB. He doesn't make it to 3rd, good chance he gets stranded on base. Heads up baseball. I've seen other guys celebrating their double and would have missed the ball getting away.

That ties the game going to the 9th otherwise Yankees probably win.

Not exactly what I'd call "no impact in the WS" as you say.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Obviously the Dodgers are in a great position with a 2-0 lead. But this is BASEBALL. It's a long effing way from over. They're now heading into Yankee Stadium for games on the road against a great team, and by the way with an Aaron Judge who is way overdue. To say that they would be a "prohibitive" favorite without Ohtani, such that if he were lost it would not be "even remotely" costly, IMO does not show a keen understanding of the game. Of course it would be a big deal to lose the best player in baseball for potentially the next five games of a seven game series.

[bk400]

I appreciate that Ohtani is getting better orthopedic care than I did when I dislocated my shoulder back in the day, but I'm surprised that he can play 45 hours after that kind of injury. Even though it is his back shoulder, I'd have to imagine it will impact his timing and his ability to stabilize and control the bat.

[nolemmings]

1981. Yankees take first two games against Dodgers, then lose four straight. A miserable result but evidence that it happens. Would love to see the Yanks return the favor.

[Balticfox]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Why would you opine at all about a game that you didn't watch, or listen to, or follow online?

I was compelled by my deep rooted need to sneer at both the New York Yankees and a recent rule change that I despise. The annoyance I felt at Rob Manfred getting his wish was also a factor:

https://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=353949

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Do you have a compulsive need to comment on everything maybe?

Everything? No. Only a certain few things. Do the math. It's simple enough.

Originally Posted by Snapolit1

We can argue on matters of opinion, preferences and priorities, but not often someone says something so authoritatively that is verifiably 100% wrong.

And on a matter of such earth shaking importance too! Mea culpa.

[Balticfox]

Originally Posted by Shoeless Moe

Maybe you and the Canadian should not watch the games together.

Screw you. All things considered, it'll be a cold day in hell before I get together with either of you two now.

[Aquarian Sports Cards]

Again, I'm responding to the person who posted that the victory may be a costly one. Even if they lost Ohtani, at the level he's been at so far in the entire playoffs, Bad series, good series and bad start to a series, I don't think it would've been a costly loss.

If you could choose to lose game two and have a 100% Ohtani, or Win game two but lose Ohtani for the remainder of the series (but not a career damaging situation) I'm taking the latter in a heartbeat as of the time it happened.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Aquarian Sports Cards

Again, I'm responding to the person who posted that the victory may be a costly one. Even if they lost Ohtani, at the level he's been at so far in the entire playoffs, Bad series, good series and bad start to a series, I don't think it would've been a costly loss.

If you could choose to lose game two and have a 100% Ohtani, or Win game two but lose Ohtani for the remainder of the series (but not a career damaging situation) I'm taking the latter in a heartbeat as of the time it happened.

But again, you're assuming with no basis at all that he continues to play badly, or mediocrely. The small sample size of prior games predicts nothing about his next game. The far more accurate predictor is his overall season. By your logic, the Yankees should just bench Judge. He's sucked, so that surely would not be a costly decision, right?

[Shoeless Moe]

Freddie Freeman has the best lefty swing since David Justice.

[jayshum]

Originally Posted by Aquarian Sports Cards

Again, I'm responding to the person who posted that the victory may be a costly one. Even if they lost Ohtani, at the level he's been at so far in the entire playoffs, Bad series, good series and bad start to a series, I don't think it would've been a costly loss.

If you could choose to lose game two and have a 100% Ohtani, or Win game two but lose Ohtani for the remainder of the series (but not a career damaging situation) I'm taking the latter in a heartbeat as of the time it happened.

Even when Ohtani is not hitting well (and again, 2 games is a small sample size to say that after his series against the Mets), just having him in the lineup changes how pitchers approach facing the Dodgers because there is always the potential for him to have a big game. You're right that it's still better to be up 2-0 and have Ohtani hurt (although he is playing in game 3) than be 1-1 with Ohtani 100%, but I still think if he had to be out of the lineup due to the injury in game 2, it could change the outlook of the series. The Yankees pitchers wouldn't have the stress of pitching to him which can only help their confidence.