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Old 04-09-2021, 09:18 AM
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Default Did the genuises at PSA slab this upside down?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1931-MLB-Al...p2047675.l2557
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Old 04-09-2021, 10:49 AM
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Apparently so. Wish their "mistakes" were limited to things this trivial.

Still very sloppy and unprofessional. Not sure what's uglier... upside-down tickets or crumpled baggies holding diagonal tickets off-center.

This piece would've looked much better in a screw-down or any simple toploader. Yuck!
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Old 04-09-2021, 03:26 PM
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Yep, it's upside down.
Also, the ticket was used for four games. Nov. 7, 8, 14 and 15th
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Old 04-09-2021, 05:03 PM
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I didn't realize that there were any geniuses employed by that opinion seller, but on a brighter note, it's now a one of one, upside down slab error...

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Old 04-11-2021, 04:27 PM
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Maybe the ticket is right side up.............and the slab, is upside down.
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Old 04-11-2021, 05:21 PM
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Maybe the ticket is right side up.............and the slab, is upside down.
That's probably what PSA's customer service reps will say.
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Old 04-21-2021, 12:21 PM
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PSA morons got this one wrong too, was he not in Pinstripes for his Sept 24th game? or Sept 26, 29 and 30 for that matter????
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Old 04-21-2021, 12:22 PM
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and the links...

Ticket:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/22443402711...oAAOSwLQ5ggD08

Ruth 1934 game log:

https://www.baseball-reference.com/p...&t=b&year=1934


and seller(PWCC) wants $4500........for what is basically a $300-400 dollar Ticket

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Old 04-21-2021, 12:29 PM
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Moe, those were away games so not in pinstripes.
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Moe, those were away games so not in pinstripes.

He did have a plate appearance on Sep 24, a home game against the Red Sox. He walked, so not credited with an at bat.

So, technically, the flip on the Sep 23 ticket stub is correct. The Babe had his final at bat in pinstripes on Sep 23.

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He did have a plate appearance on Sep 24, a home game against the Red Sox. He walked, so not credited with an at bat.

So, technically, the flip on the Sep 23 ticket stub is correct. The Babe had his final at bat in pinstripes on Sep 23.

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Good catch I was thinking the ticket was the 24th. Poor observational skills on my part! I was 3/4 right though which is still a solid "C"
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Sorry but he had an AB on the 24th. I don't give a shit if he walked. A walk is an AB.
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Sorry but he had an AB on the 24th. I don't give a shit if he walked. A walk is an AB.

Read the rule book. A player does NOT get credited with an at bat when they walk. They get only a plate appearance.

Here it is on MLB.com (http://www.mlb.com/glossary/standard-stats/at-bat):

At-bat (AB)

Definition

An official at-bat comes when a batter reaches base via a fielder's choice, hit or an error (not including catcher's interference) or when a batter is put out on a non-sacrifice. (Whereas a plate appearance refers to each completed turn batting, regardless of the result.)

At-bats are used as the denominator when determining batting average and slugging percentage. Players who bat higher in the order will typically finish the season with more at-bats than players who hit toward the bottom. Similarly, players who walk infrequently also typically record a higher-than-usual number of at-bats in a season, because walks do not count as at-bats.



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Sorry but he had an AB on the 24th. I don't give a shit if he walked. A walk is an AB.

While the flip on that Sep 23rd ticket stub is correct in that Babe Ruth's final Yankee home at-bat was that day, I do not believe that should really be that big of a factor. To me, it's just a way to make that game more important than it perhaps, should be.

I am much more interested in a player's last home appearance with the team. Say for instance, that The Babe didn't even get up to the plate in the game on Sep 24th. As it was, he started the game in RF, walked in the first inning, and was removed for a pinch-runner (Myril Hoag). What if he had been pinch hit for in the first inning, after having played the top half of the inning in RF; It would still be his last appearance (and game started) as a Yankee at Yankee Stadium. To me, that is the more important milestone.

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You know what you could do with your rule book.

I'm not figuring batting batting averages here guy.

Ruth stepped in the batters box, faced the pitcher, got 4 balls and walked.

THAT was his last AT BAT as a Yankee in Yankee Stadium as a player.
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You know what you could do with your rule book.

I'm not figuring batting batting averages here guy.

Ruth stepped in the batters box, faced the pitcher, got 4 balls and walked.

THAT was his last AT BAT as a Yankee in Yankee Stadium as a player.
No. As was so aptly pointed out. Regardless of what you say, or how you feel, it was not an AB.
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To Steve's point... Let's just say it was Babe's last "appearance" as a Yankee in Yankee Stadium. This does not change the desirability much, if at all IMHO.
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