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Posted By: Ryan Christoff
As someone who has not been shy about his hatred of the Boston Red Sox, I am surprised to find how unsuicidal I am after having them win the World Series in my backyard. Only one thing could have possibly lessened this blow, and the rumor of it was announced during the game tonight by Ken Rosenthal. |
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Posted By: Bob
The 2007 Boston Red Sox World Series victory is the most expensive championship in the history of baseball at $143 million. Number two on that list? The 2004 Boston Red Sox. So now that the Red Sox have BOUGHT the two most expensive championships in the history of baseball, they have solidified their status as THE NEW EVIL EMPIRE. >>> |
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Posted By: Dan Bretta
And the 2007 New York Yankees are the most expensive losers in the history of baseball. |
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Posted By: Dan Bretta
Yes, root for the Twins and A's...two cheapskate teams who deal away all their great players once they become free agents. |
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Posted By: Mike
Yeah he kills team chemistry because all he cares about are his personal stats. There was a story about him when he first left the Rangers and all the young guys on the Rangers said that he was obsessed with his own stats and even went as far as to knock players who didn't pay close attention to their personal stats. As has been proven time and time again baseball is a TEAM sport and as long as Arod continues to care more about his pocket and his personal stats any team he is on will never win. |
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Posted By: anthony
huge red sox and angels fan but if either team picks up a-rod...i might take a backseat to being a huge fan...might have to look for another team. |
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Posted By: Paul Grubor
Would I love to see Arod on the Milwaukee Brewers. He would be back at SS and we could put JJ in left field. Imagine this lineup: Weeks, Hardy, Arod, Fielder, Braun, Hart, Jenkins or Hall, (the catcher??) and the pitcher. With a very good young staff and a healthy Ben Sheets we would win it all! |
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Posted By: barrysloate
The Red Sox have a great core of young players and I think they will be a team to reckon with for years to come. |
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Posted By: James Feagin
As an Orioles fan, I might at well go to sleep, wake up in 10 years, and go back to sleep. |
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Posted By: JK
If the Brewers paid for Arod, they wouldnt have any money to pay Braun, Weeks, Fielder and the others. |
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Posted By: Jeff Lichtman
There aren't really many places for ARod to go: Angels, Cubs, Mets (never happen) and the Sox (never happen). Sad that a guy who will end up being perhaps the greatest player on paper will have a nomadic career in which chasing the dollar was his most significant concern. |
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Posted By: barrysloate
He already has a lot of dollars. I suspect he doesn't want to play for the Yankees any more. |
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Posted By: Ted Zanidakis
As a Yankee fan, I was ardently rooting for the Rockies; but, the logical BB side of me knew it'd be Boston because of Jason Varitek. |
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Posted By: MVSNYC
ted- very well thought out... |
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Posted By: Fred C
Players are greedy but I think they are egged on by their agents. In this case A-rods agent is probably one of the greediest (if not the greediest) agents in sports history. The agent has to pump up the player to thicken their wallet. What will be funny is if the Yanks are void of A-rod and win the WS in 2008. |
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Posted By: Al C.risafulli
Aside from Wakefield, Varitek, and Francona, I find very little about these Red Sox that is likeable. Between the Sox and the Patriots, I'm wondering what happened to class in New England sports. |
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Posted By: James Feagin
While we're at it let's PLEASE scrap the myth that the Red Sox were a losing franchise prior to 2004. Since 1967, in 40 seasons the Red Sox had a total of 6 losing seasons and went to the playoffs numerous times. Sure they were the bridesmaid most of the time, but that's a lot better than to have not been invited to the wedding at all. |
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Posted By: Steve
Ryan, sarcasstic but a thought provoking post nonetheless. |
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Posted By: John Kalafarski
Members of Red Sox Nation are enjoying themselves this morning; reading the bitterness in some of the Yankee-fan posts is music to our ears and adds to our joy. With young lions like Beckett, Buchholz, Delcarmen, Lester, Okajima, Matsuzaka, Pedroia, Ellsbury, and Papelbon on the Sox roster, get used to drinking the bitter brew for some time. No Sox fan wants the greedy ARod in Boston. I hope he winds up with no offers. |
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Posted By: Chris Counts
The Yankees lost this year because they're pitching wasn't very good. I don't buy the A-Rod excuse ... they need to trade away guys like Damon, Giambi and Abreu (good luck!), stockpile young promising pitchers and try to win it all in a couple years. But I believe they'll be doomed by their impatience. No team in baseball history has spent more money on old, broken down and overpaid pitchers ... |
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Posted By: Jeff Lichtman
I agree that pitching is the answer and the Yankees insist upon overpaying old broken, down players over and over. Seems like they'll never learn. As for the Sox (I'm a Mets fan for disclosure purposes), for some reason this Series win doesn't make me happy like their past one did. They've really just become a more successful (lately) version of the Yankees. It's hard as a baseball fan to feel the same joy for them as I did in 04 due to the overpaying they do as well (Gagne, Dice K, etc.). |
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Posted By: dstudeba
Steve - excellent post, thank you. |
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Posted By: John Kalafarski
Jeff, the Mets are 3rd on the team salary list. The new Sox management felt that in order to compete with the Yankees, they had to increase spending. After all, they are in the same division, and the Sox hadn't finished first in a long time. Wait 'til the Mets get the lightning rod. |
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Posted By: Dan Bretta
How did the Red Sox "overpay"? Everyone made money and they won the World Series. Even the Yankees with their larger payroll still made money this year. |
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Posted By: Jeff Lichtman
John, I agree with you totally. The Mets are just as bad (actually worse because they suck and are arrogrant while sucking). It would be nice for a small market team to win it without a lineup of hired guns is all I'm saying. |
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Posted By: Dan Bretta
The 'small market' Marlins have won the World Series twice. |
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Posted By: Ricky Y
Red Sox have two things going...smart baseball people in the organzation combined with the big financial resources. They have a good mix of young and old, home grown talent and smart free agent acquisitions. They seem to spend their money wisely. Yankees have done a good job with their killer lineup but they haven't done as well in putting together their pitching staff. Ofcourse its luck too...Okajima was basically signed to provide a Japanese teammate for Matsuzaka but ended up being an intergal part of their bullpen. |
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Posted By: James Feagin
Small market teams in the American League East do not have a legitimate shot though. Additionally, small market teams can never sustain a dynasty and can't afford to cover their mistakes. Franchises like the Yankees and Red Sox can and do (the prior more than the latter). |
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Posted By: MVSNYC
edited to delete this post...i was trying to make a list of small & semi-small market teams, but upon checking a list of highest salary teams, my post seemed incorrect... |
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Posted By: James Feagin
I think we're referring to the size of media markets? (Rankings based on Arbitron) If so #2 Los Angeles (Angels) and #3 Chicago (White Sox) should be omitted. Small market teams MAY get to taste the piece, but generally can't afford to do it continually or cover their mistakes. |
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Posted By: dennis
a small market team in baseball really translates into an owner with no commitment to paying his players what they can recieve elsewhere. the 3 largest markets ny/la/chicago all have 2 teams which makes them compete not only with other teams but other teams in their own city. owners of the small market team love when the fans believe they do not win because they are small market. |
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Posted By: James Feagin
I think that's true to a certain extent. I've always felt if baseball were to get a salary cap, a salary floor would also be necessitated so greedy small market owners couldn't pocket all the money |
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Posted By: Dan Bretta
Small market teams can and used to win with regularity. You just have to have an owner that is committed to winning and a sound, smart organization. The Royals used to win a lot when Ewing Kaufman was alive...now they have an owner who couldn't care less. The Twins used to win a lot and still do mainly because they have a consistent organization with good scouting and player development...they still win despite the efforts of their owner to retract his own team. |
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Posted By: Todd Schultz
Much of what you say is just plain wrong. First, going back to your earlier post, please identify for me 3-4 free agents that the Twins lost because they couldn't pay them. Second, please look at the team payrolls before bemoaning how cheap the Twins and A's are--here's the 2007 list: |
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Posted By: Dan Bretta
I should have clarified and said for the first half of the 20th century on the Yanks and Cards...I do agree that the Yankees used the KC team as a farm team, but that was in the 1950s and 60s. |
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Posted By: James Feagin
Small to mid markets have made the NFL what it is today. |
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Posted By: Dan Bretta
I guess I have always been fond of the dynastic nature of sports in the past. I no longer watch the NFL or NBA...never did watch the NHL. And college football this year is a snoozer. The BCS title game could be Boston College v Kansas...<shudder> |
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Posted By: PC
"I'm wondering what happened to class in New England sports." |
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Posted By: Ted Zanidakis
In an earlier post here you mentioned Mike Lowell possibly being replaced by A-Rod in Boston. |
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Posted By: Steve
PC, Who pissed on your Cheerios?.. Incidentally, a high percentage of kids enrolled in Boston College, Harvard, BU, NE etc etc aren't from Boston. I believe this is the norm in most major US cities. (My kids attended colleges out of state) Cowboy Up, Steve F |
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Posted By: dstudeba
Wow PC, hope your day gets better. |
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Posted By: PC
Hey, there are far worse things in life -- for instance, we could be stuck in an elevator with Chao or Dorskind. |
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Posted By: Mike
Does Lowell of Boston know his father is Don Mossi? |
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Posted By: Darrell
It would be the 60th anniversary so there is hope I guess |
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Posted By: john/z28jd
Ted,actually Lowell was traded because of Scott Brosius blocking him and i think they did ok with that deal considering he had won the world series mvp that year and then they signed him for the next 3 years that included 2 more series wins in which he batted .375 and .308 respectively. Arod didnt even come around till another 3 seasons after that,the year that wouldve been Lowells free agent year.The Marlins signed him to an extension prior to that,then got burned bad by his horrible play in 2005 and had to dump him to the Sox who only took him to get Beckett not because they wanted him |
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Posted By: Greg Theberge
The Red Sox won the series? Hadn't heard. |
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Posted By: DMcD
"I would pay the same for a ticket to sit in the CF bleachers on an Off-Day." |
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Posted By: Ted Zanidakis
Boston's J. Ellsbury got 4 hits in one game this WS....he's only the 2nd Rookie to ever do this. |
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Posted By: Greg Theberge
Funny thing. I read this thread for the first time last night after getting in from Washington D.C. over the weekend and really didn't pay it much attention. As I was reading it again, I got a call from my wife who was all excited about running into Don Orsillo at our local pizza joint. For those who aren't aware, Don broadcasts the Sox games on NESN along with Jerry Remy. My wife loves the Sox as much as I do, and there isn't a day or night when the game isn't on. |
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