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Old 12-11-2005, 09:34 AM
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Posted By: joe maples

What is everyones opinion on grading by Beckett BVG on vintage cards?

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Old 12-11-2005, 09:59 AM
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Posted By: Brian E.

I personally consider them on par with GAI & PSA but a few steps down from SGC. Very strong protective slabs BTW

Consistency is the most thing; is this consistent?


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Old 12-11-2005, 10:22 AM
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Posted By: warshawlaw

the slabs are really hard to crack. Of the BVG cards I've considered purchasing I'd say the grading was a bit below par with what I'd expect.

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Old 12-11-2005, 10:32 AM
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Posted By: scott ingold

I've bought 4 bvg's and 3 were deemed trimmed by GAI.

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Old 12-11-2005, 10:45 AM
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Posted By: Shannon

Ive always steered away from BVG just for the reason as Scott said. Thats really bad Scott, Ive heard a lot of there cards encased were trimmed.

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Old 12-11-2005, 11:06 AM
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Posted By: Paul

I think they are on par with GAI & PSA too. SGC is my first choice, but not by much. I've seen mistakes by all the grading companies. That's just going to happen. I dont have an issue buying BVG cards.

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Old 12-11-2005, 11:11 AM
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Posted By: Richard

Contrary to what Adam says, BVG cases are the easiest to crack. I have been saying this for some time and I think I need to start a thread later about how to do this.

As for their grading, I believe that their earlier graded stuff has a decent number of mistakes, but they have been much better over the last couple of years.

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Old 12-11-2005, 11:12 AM
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Posted By: Joe Jones

What about scd grading? Are they still around? I just bought a card that was an scd 4.

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Posted By: warshawlaw

I have a couple I want to break out but cannot guess at how to start

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Old 12-11-2005, 12:42 PM
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Posted By: JimB

Brian E.,
If there are no wrinkles or creases on that Cobb or other problems on the front or back that cannot be detected from the scan then you make a good point. The Cobb is seriously undergraded. But it is impossible to tell definatively from the scan.
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Old 12-11-2005, 12:50 PM
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Posted By: Richard

Adam,

I will post a step by step thread later this week.

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Old 12-11-2005, 01:17 PM
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Posted By: joe Maples

Thanks for responses, my question concerns buying cards graded by Beckett, I'm not going to send in any for grading.

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Old 12-11-2005, 01:21 PM
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Posted By: Anonymous

i find SGC the best. go grading, i here less about mistakes and has a nice slab. GAI is way to generous grading. i dont know how somes of these cards they garde r what they say.

the easiest way for me to crack the cases is a table saw. i no it sounds really bad, but it gives u a clean cut to slide the undamaged card out of the case, without bending the card. and by far BVG is the easiest to crack. i dropped a Beckett holder, and the thing has a big crack, i was suprised!!!

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Old 12-11-2005, 01:23 PM
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Posted By: Brian E.

Jim:

The GAI Cobb 2.5 is accurately graded and as you alluded to, does have a crease. It wasn't the best example. I don't want to highjack the thread but many people have stated the Wagner is overgraded by at least a half grade, if not a grade and half. The card below is from my PC and free from stains, creases, wringles etc with the good condition attributed to the corner wear. I expected to see the Wanger at 2.5 not a 3.5 Sorry for digressing from the the focus of the thread.



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Old 12-11-2005, 01:25 PM
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Posted By: Anonymous

yeah i noticed that with the wagner, also with the plank that looks trimmed. they card shouldnt have increased value with these grading companies, it seems there all over the place!!

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Old 12-11-2005, 02:54 PM
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Posted By: JimB

I agree that the Wagner is probably overgraded by a half grade. I would think that with a nice clean surface and image and no creasing that that degree of corner wear falls into the vg category.
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Old 12-11-2005, 07:56 PM
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I"m not a fan of BVG. I've owned 2 BVG cards in my life and they were sent to SGC for crossover and one came back as trimmed.

Take that for what its worth.

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Old 12-23-2005, 09:56 AM
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Posted By: Ron Diamond

I showed my wife two cards SCD just gave me 1.5(20) grades...we were married when I took up the hobby again over 20 years ago...so she has seen the hobby change over time, along side me at shows, through ebay auctions and 1000's of cards showing up at my home. I only collect pre 1961 cards(though 80% are pre 1935). Even she was shocked at the reckless, misgrading of the cards, or, perhaps I should say their cavalliere changing of grading as is recognized in our hobby. I can't send you images(which I would like to do...but I'm not computer literate and don't see how to). MY cards are not 1.5. I have a number of the hightest graded sets registered at PSA and SGC...crummy cards are not what I purchase(this year I spent over $90,000 on cards). I assure you SGC doesn't even sound professional when you call and talk to them...sounds like some kids playing 'grown up'. PSA is still superior to SGC.

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Thats funny Ron.

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Who the hell use's scd now a days ?

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Old 12-23-2005, 11:15 AM
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Posted By: Mark

"Sports Card Digest" closed its doors more than a year ago. A new company bought the rights to the "SCD" logo, machinery, etc., though the name of the company is actually "Sports Card Direct." So if Sports Card Direct is "going downhill" from Sports Card Digest, perhaps it's because it's not the same company.

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Posted By: leon

In your last statement when you said "SGC" sounding like kids did you mean "SCD"....or is there something I am missing at SGC? regards

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Old 12-23-2005, 06:28 PM
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Posted By: WP

Does anybody know the names of the SCD graders?? I heard something about a Mr. Koonce.

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Old 12-24-2005, 09:32 AM
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Posted By: Anson

If they grade my cards accurately and provide solid service, I don't care if it sounds like a three-ring circus on the phone.

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